Darlene Greene's Inspiring Journey with Phototherapy

Rich Bennett 0:00
Thanks for joining the conversation where we explore the stories and experiences that shape our world. I'm your host, Rich Bennett, joined by. Well, you may recognize the voice. It's been a while. Alisha Hamilton. And today, we're joined by Darlene Green, a remarkable individual whose personal journey intertwines with the realms of caregiving and innovative health solutions. At 58, Darlene navigated the challenges of being a caregiver for her husband, who was diagnosed with early Alzheimer's. Her discovery of phototherapy patches led to the significant improvements in her own health and her husband's condition. So we're going to delve into her experiences, the impact of these patches on their lives, and her insights into why, I guess it would be stem cell research, right? 

Darlene Greene 0:53
Something else. STEM cell activation. 

Rich Bennett 0:57
Right? That's right. Yeah, that's what I said. STEM cell activation. 

But first of all, before we get started, I have to ask, how is your husband doing? 

Darlene Greene 1:10
Well, my husband is he's got severely moderate dementia of Alzheimer's. So he is not you know, he's at six a which is a five year old toddler who needs help getting dressed. That's where my husband is now. He was in a place where he was not talking, sleeping the whole day away, really not engaging, not his personality, a zombie, really, a shell of his former self before. And then once we started catching him, he woke up. He started being energetic. He was awake all day. He never touched. You didn't take his three and a half hour nap anymore. He began engaging in conversation, talking really interacting and funny again and flirting again and back to being my husband. So in one. 

Rich Bennett 1:56
Week. 

Darlene Greene 1:56
And one week rich and one week he completely blossomed and came back to me. And so, you know, it's it's I just wish I would have known about these patches earlier because I think if I would have gotten on him way earlier, we wouldn't be where we are today. 

Rich Bennett 2:13
Well, I for those of you wonder what tell everybody what this patch is. Yeah, it's called. 

Darlene Greene 2:19
So this is called my five x 39. And this is just the most miraculous thing. It's a photo bio modulation patch. There is nothing going in your skin. It's the size of a quarter. And just like when you go out in the sun and your body makes vitamin D from a light signal. Right. Or melanin to give you a suntan. If I were to look at you and reach out and I have to tell you this as a marine, you know, about night vision goggles. So I looked at you. You have light inside of you. And what this patch does is it's like a little mirror of crystals that's reflecting your own light back into your body at a very specific wavelength that elevates a peptide called copper peptide GHQ. And that copper peptide activates your own stem cells. So when you're 30, half of your stem cells are dormant, and when you're 60, they're almost all dormant. And what this does is it kicks them into gear and wakes them up. And you don't even have to put it on your skin. Like you can wear it on your skin. You can wear on the outside of your clothing because it goes really it goes through your clothing. And the benefits of this peptide called GHQ are very well documented. If you Google it in PubMed, you can actually see tons of double blind placebo controlled studies that talk about the benefits of GHQ. So, you know, most people used to get it by injecting it with a shot, right? But four injections aren't as good as the patch for one day. So what the the copper peptide has been proven to do? Yes, it increases your stem cells and produces growth factor, but it also does a million other things. It protects lung cells, including restoring health in people that have COPD affected cells. It might. It's amazing for your brain and the nerves. It actually alters the expression of human genes and it induces strong anti anxiety, anti aggression, anti pain. It has anti-cancer benefits, including actually resetting the programmed cell death of human cancer cells, neuroblastoma, leukemia, breast cancer cells, but does not affect healthy cells. It actually inhibits nf KB p 65, which is believed to promote cancer. It repairs damaged DNA reset 84 genes to cancer inhibition. And then it does amazing things for the hair. You can see all of these sprouts that just won't lie down because they have all this hair growth really good for skin and it actually removes fine lines and wrinkles and reduces photo damage. Great for healing everything from the stomach and intestine and the lining and bone. And then it has amazing effects on the heart. It reduces fibrinogen synthesis, which is the top predictor of cardiovascular disease, and it increases myostatin, which inhibits heart failure. It does amazing things for the brain, amazing things for the brain, amazing things for a heart, amazing everything. STEM cells were what made you there, The raw material. The raw material. So your first two cells came together and began to function and make you. And those were stem cells. And they can become anything in your body that your body needs them to be. And they're very smart. So they go where your body needs them to go. 

Rich Bennett 5:39
How in the world did you find out about this? 

Darlene Greene 5:43
Well, my friend knew we had gone out of country four times to get stem cell ivy and injections at very, very high expense. I mean, any anything you do with stem cells is typically thousands, tens of thousands. So each ivy was $10,000. He did it and I did it. We did it for him for Alzheimer's. We did it for me for chronic fatigue syndrome or Epstein-Barr virus, Fibromyalgia and Potts, which is postural orthostatic tachycardia. I really wanted to stop fainting and passing out. That was my goal without having a medicine that increased my blood pressure. So we were both getting them and we just didn't see any results. And that was a lot of money in a year to put into I.V. stem cells, but nothing. We tried the hyperbaric chamber. We tried revamping diet and exercise, and we threw out alcohol and soda and any sugar and white flour and all of those things. Years ago, wow, Nothing was making a difference. And he was still he was still declining at a rapid speed. So my husband's got AP four four, which is the worst gene type you could have for Alzheimer's. He's got the Alzheimer's gene from both sets of parents and and he has early Alzheimer's. Both of those caused him to progress faster. Normally you would go from mild cognitive impairment to his stage of six AA in 11 to 13 years. He did it in two. All right. So this is why I was just desperate. So I had a friend who said, Darling, I know you're into stem cells. I have a I have been having this transformational experience in our family using these patches that elevate a copper peptide, then activates your stem cells. And she described for me her daughter, who has a rare genetic disorder and was 16 years old but behaved like a kindergartner, could not be left alone. Very combative, very problematic. And in just 15 days on the patches no longer ever needed her ADHD medicine again. So, so calm, not combative any more, able to focus and study. Really a pleasant child in five months. No, I'm sorry. It was in five months. It was five weeks in five weeks. On the patches. She went from kindergarten to fourth grade in academics. I mean, her brain just lit out and all these. And in nine or ten months, I can't remember how long it took her her executive reasoning, which isn't even supposed to change, apparently. But your heart, her executive reasoning became that of a 16 year old. She is now talking about living on her own. One day this was and she got she's getting a job. This was not possible. She literally was a kindergarten level, could not be left alone for even 10 minutes. And now she's like, she's just in one year this hit, this child has just traumatically changed. It's also her cousin had Advanced Agent Orange, leukemia, a veteran so near and dear to our heart. Her cousin had this and was in bed round the clock pain meds and told, we're going to give you this pill, this pharmaceutical drug, it's going to kill you, but it's going to improve your quality of life until you die. And and she was like, Oh my God, let's let's not do that. Could you just try these patches? They've really changed our lives. Try this patch. And he did in three days. He was out of bed in weeks. He was traveling. He had sold all of his cows, his, you know, hearing to die like they were preparing to die. And now he's bought all of his cows back. He's living, he's fishing. He's living his high quality of life. His white cell counts. Great, you know, just transformed his life. So this is the friend who says, I know the situation with Jim is is severe and dire. Please try this, because this changed our lives. And I was like, I mean, I hadn't read the 90 clinical studies at that point. There are over 90 clinical studies. I had read and listened to a few testimonials on people with Alzheimer's that had really improved, not been cured. So I wanted to be careful here to say that Lifeway products are not intended to cure or treat prevent any disease, even if they do, because we're we're a general wellness product like a Band-Aid. So there's nothing going on. The skin, right? Your body is what's really doing all of the all of the healing, all of the optimizing. So so we just I just tried them. What did I have to lose? There's even a money back guarantee, right? So it's like, why not? I have tried everything else and nothing has worked. So that's why we did it. And in that very first week, you know, stop sleeping chattier with it. Second week experienced the best sleep that we had recorded. He went from 15 minutes of deep sleep to an hour and 20 minutes of deep sleep. Over time, additional things improved, like he regained the ability to whistle and drum and his blood pressure dropped 37 points, 37 points in just in just two and a half months. And then at five months, he regained the ability to smell. And you had someone on your podcast talking about how smell I think she was talking about it in in terms of a different like maybe Parkinson's or something. It was, but it was an indicator of not good things in the brain. Right? Well, that I didn't know that. So 15 years ago, when Jim lost his sense of smell, I didn't know that that was related to a neuro issue. Now I do. But when he regained his sense of smell at five months of wearing the patches, that's good neuro stuff going on. You know what I mean? Yeah. And I had an equally similar and amazing difference in terms of my experience. But I don't have to I don't have to take this medicine to increase my blood pressure. I don't have to I don't have any body aches. I don't have any of the fibromyalgia pains. I also have so much more energy. I one of the best things that happened for me was it lifted my depression. And I will tell you honestly, it's hard for me to actually tell the world that I was depressed, but I had a pretty good reason to be. I had broken my foot, I had sprained my ankle. I was, you know, if I asked my husband to bring me a glass of water, he he would just look at me with deer in the headlights look. I don't know what you're asking. I don't know how to do that. Now he can. He sees my waters half full and he fills it up for me like he knows what to do. But back then he couldn't. And I would have to. I was dependent on him to get me water right, so I have to walk him through it. And it was just hard and I was like, okay, this is my life. I'm 58 years old and this was my life. And it was just really it was really a lot of despair, a lot of a lot of depression. I wanted to cry every single day. So the best thing the patches did for me of all was lift my depression. Like with just in a couple of weeks it just lifted and there's a steady explaining how that happens. But by lifting the depression and lifting my spirits and allowing me to live in a place of gratitude, I just it changed my life. But additionally, there are patches called ice wave that get you out of pain. So it also got me out of pain. So my foot stopped hurting because I was able to put these patches on and they were like instantaneous, like within 15 seconds you can take your pain from like a ten to a zero or a one. They're just remarkable. I used to have regular headaches. I used to not go anywhere without my migraine medicine because I would I've been in the hospital twice vomiting with migraines. So you just you know, when you have migraines, you just don't risk it. So I would never go anywhere without him. I don't even know where my migraine medicine is right now. Like, I haven't had a headache in so long. So I love that I my rosacea. I had horrible rosacea on my forehead that was red and acne and bumps that that cleared up. It took about three months but that it did it and and I also balanced my hormones and stopped emotional eating. So part of that's the there is a there's a specific patch. It's kind of like the best thing ever for me in that I feel like since I've been 20, I've been a sugar or a salt addict. And this patch is specifically good for people with addiction. It's so, you know, I thought of your you know, you have a lot of listeners who have certain addictions and whether that's yeah, whether that's drugs or that's alcohol or whatever that might be, this patch does something to the brain. The hypothalamus, I don't know. It balances the hormone and digestive system and it balances the endocrine system. But what it and it regulates the autonomic nervous system. But what I love about this patch is that it causes this natural decrease in cravings so that craving can be hunger or sugar or alcohol or drug. And yet no addiction. So it has changed my relationship with food where I'm not thinking about food all the time. I'm not worrying about my next meal. I'm not I'm not I'm not standing in front of the refrigerator. I'm not really hungry. But like, I want to eat something. You know that stress, right? Emotional comfort food thing. I don't I don't do that anymore. I eat when I'm hungry. I stop when I'm satiated. And I'm not thinking about that next meal. It's just sort of all that's gone. I used a white knuckle my way through every single day and I don't have to white knuckle it anymore. So that has been a mazing for me. 

Rich Bennett 14:59
All right. I'm I'm speechless in a way. 

This. How come we've never heard of this before? Oh, boy. Yeah, You tell us like it's a best kept secret out there. 

Darlene Greene 15:14
That was my question. When I found out there were over 300 Olympic athletes wearing our life patches in the 2008 Olympics, you would think that I would be relieved by that. But I was kind of pissed off about it because I found out then, you know, from I recently, Tom Brady's wearing the patches. Kansas City Chiefs are wearing the patches. You know, Serena Williams, David Beckham, Michael Phelps, really big names wearing these patches. Why don't any well, why why do you think nobody knows about them? I mean, who owns the media, Who owns advertising, who owns big pharmaceutical? Big Pharma does not want you resolving your health issues at the root cause level. And there is there are people who can give you testimonials from everything from for bulging discs that that were just not you know, there's nothing you can do. There's no medical there's no, you know, in just 16 months it's straight and beautiful and there is no pain to healing 

beautifully remodeling, scar tissue, hair growth. But even things like like almost you could almost name it. So I have I have testimonials on people that have dropped their agency, that have had acid reflux and in day two, they no longer have acid reflux. They have many, many people stop their ADHD medicines, many people removed. They're like their allergies go away. Amazing things for people with anxiety or arthritis pain. Now it takes a little while because you got to reduce all that inflammation. You got to get the stem cells in there to do this. I'm not saying this happens overnight, but the pain patches happen right away. So while you're healing with the stem cell activation patch, 639 you can get out of pain and feel better. Blood pressure, bone density increasing 

everything from the anti lots of people with with fast growing cells or cancer have experienced tremendous relief through the process and not had it not come back, even though I had come back many, many times before. Amazing testimonials on it. So everybody that's had the vaccination or the virus has spike proteins. If you don't know anything about spike proteins, learn about them. They are very harmful for you. And if you don't do anything about them, they're still there and they affect your gut and your brain and your lungs and your heart. All of this, all this heart inflammation that people are talking about, all of these issues. Yeah, this is from the vaccination or the virus. It's the spikes, the spike cells. So what you can do is you can wear three of the patches, the x 39, which is the stem cell activation patch. There's an anti inflammation patch and this glutathione on patch and the glued a thigh on patch is amazing at so many things. But one of them is it helps detox the body. It's boost your immune system. You know, I told you in our pre-show what I was working really hard with three autoimmune disorders to try to stay healthy through the pandemic. One of the things I was doing was IVIG with iron or with iron. Good. If iron is your your body's master antioxidant, the people that live the longest in the world have the highest levels of glucose iron if you look in the blue zones and things like that. So I was doing this to try to be well, I find out that my Ivy was raising my glutathione levels by 27% for 7 minutes. Not that impressive. My x 39 patch raises my glutathione levels 30% on its own and it stays there. But the good on patch actually raises my glutathione levels by 300% and it stays there for 24 hours. And this is different than taking something oral or IV, right? This is my body making it right. So my body makes the right amount for me and it's going to go in there. And then with those three patches in just two months, you can find that it just removes the spike proteins. Your body just gets rid of those spike proteins. So it's it's also amazing for rebuilding cartilage. So me there's a state we're like 20 or 30 people were going to go have knee surgery and they did the, the anti-inflammatory patch, the greatest iron patch in the Act 39 for two or three months, one like the iron on the one side of the knee, the go to find on the other side of the knee and the next 39 wherever they like to wear it. And in that timeframe to 2 to 3 months, zero of them went on to have knee surgery because it rebuilds cartilage, it rebuilds cartilage, you know, good thigh and is amazing. People really should look into the with iron and I just love it. So those three patches I think everybody can use and if you don't if you have pain ice wave is the best thing ever but those through patches but but it's other things too it's everything from hearing tonight is gout, lupus, Lyme disease, macular degeneration, mental health, migraines. 

Rich Bennett 20:05
Everything. 

Darlene Greene 20:06
You know, plantar fasciitis. My sister's plantar fasciitis cleared up in three weeks. My sisters, microscopic colitis. Really good for the gut. So Michael Hershey had six years of microscopic colitis. Ridge and Alisha, six years. So that she had tried steroids and she tried I.V. stents, she tried antibiotics, nothing worked three weeks on the patches for microscopic colitis cleared up. It's amazing. Psoriasis, shingles, stroke, follow on tendons, thyroid. My my doctor friend isn't even taking her thyroid medicine anymore. She doesn't need it anymore. 

Alicia Hamilton 20:38
So I'm going to ask a question that is just, you know, it almost sounds like a too good to be true kind of thing. So I want to make sure to ask some questions that other people might be thinking. Yeah, I if it's capable of doing all these things, how come at the company start they didn't go like, I'm not sure how something becomes a pharmaceutical medicine and it's not really a medicine, you know, I understand that part. So I'm just kind of curious why it's a product on its own versus going into the medical world and going through that system. 

Darlene Greene 21:14
Into the medical world. Well, a lot you'll find a lot of things that that go into the medical world that really can help the body. 

If they aren't going to make big pharma big money, they get squashed and died and tucked away in the graveyard. And the owner initially the first patches which were actually contracted, he was contracted by the Department of Defense to create these patches for US Navy SEALs to give them energy so that they could stay awake for four and five days at a time without amphetamines. So the very best practices were called energy enhancers. And then 911 hit and as a result of that, they kind of shut down that program. And he's like, you know, this this product is on fire. Everybody's loving it. Everybody's enjoying it. I'm going to take it private. Well, you can get it out in the market faster as a general wellness aid, right? Band-Aid it. It's FDA compliant. It doesn't have to go through that, you know, be 25 years of rigor in FDA for medical world. And it would probably never see the light of day. It would probably get squished because the impacts of it are so harmful to big pharma by taking away the need for all these drugs. People stop people, lower their blood pressure or get off of it. They lower their cholesterol meds or get off of it. They they don't have the thyroid, but I mean, there's just so many people, their insulin drops in half quickly and then sometimes they don't need it anymore. So these kinds of things are really not good for big pharma. So they he wanted it to be available to households anywhere without a prescription. No contraindications. There is you can be going through chemotherapy or any kind of treatment plan. There's no contraindications to anything. The only people that have to really hold hands tight with their doctor are people who have had an organ transplant and they have somebody else's organ in their body because it increases your immune system so dramatically. And they normally are on an immune suppressants kind of drug keeping that so that their body doesn't attack that alien organ. So they would just need to be very careful not to boost the immune system too much to have that happen. But there's from babies 2 to 2 grandparents, people are wearing these pouches and they're seeing amazing results. Even even 80 year olds, you know, are seeing the energy and the deep sleep and all of the good, you know, the coughs go away or or whatever. The knees feel strong. They're getting stronger. 

Rich Bennett 23:46
I 

I'm just blown away by all this because, I mean, this is something that 

I mean, you already it helps of addiction, anxiety, depression. Yeah, the inflammation. 

Darlene Greene 24:04
Yes. 

Rich Bennett 24:05
ADHD. 

Darlene Greene 24:07
Yes. 

Rich Bennett 24:08
They also I mean. 

Darlene Greene 24:09
Erectile dysfunction, even really every everything. 

Rich Bennett 24:13
Why are you going to bring up my name when you say that? I don't have that problem. 

Darlene Greene 24:16
Nobody talks about it. But it's really a blood. A blood issue. Yeah. And you know, it's a blood issue, right? It's a cardiovascular issue. There was a study that was done and this was an amazing study. Every six weeks somebody wore the x 39 patch. Their system, their cardiovascular system began to operate as if it were eight weeks younger. That's why I don't have any symptoms of parts anymore, I think. Wow, I think it just redid my cardiovascular system. So I'm getting blood to the brain the way I'm supposed to. No drug or medicine is going to fix my cardiovascular system ever. Right. There's another there was another study done in 2019 by Chevallier, a psych tech study, and they did EEGs and blood work and they did subjective exams where they talked to people. And here's what happened. The very first session they did an EEG. You could see red circles of red. And that red is indicative of ADHD, inflammation, hyper coherence. Hyper coherence is when the the crosstalk between the two hemispheres is not functioning properly. They that's a sign of a troubled brain and not a fully functioning, highly operating brain when it's got that red everywhere. Well, in three weeks of wearing x 39, 12 hours on and 12 hours off because you want your body to get a little break, you want your body not to get used to the signal where it stops responding, you know, because that's how things happen. If you just are taking it all the time, then your body just goes, okay, this is normal. But if you just take it, give it that little 12 hour break. Now it gets the signal, Oh, I need to make GHQ. Let's go to work. Let's go activate the stem cells. So the third, third week in that EEG is already changing. You can see colors coming in like yellows and greens and blues. And at six weeks, you have a whole new color map on that EEG. And you have the findings in this double blind placebo controlled study where this. Yes, they found that it increased GHQ throughout the bloodstream and had all the benefits that go along with that are huge. But it also supported cell and nerve regeneration, which is huge for my husband's brain. I need that cell and nerve regeneration. It balanced the brain. It improved that coherence, it improved the nervous system, it lowered anxiety, it decreased brain inflammation, it improved memory and focus in cognitive brain function and it improved task processing, ease and speed. Those were the official findings of the study. 

Rich Bennett 26:44
Wow. 

Darlene Greene 26:45
So, yeah, I love it for veterans. I love it for all the people that everybody says anxiety, depression, stress. People talk about how they just think more clearly there. There's so much more energy and here's what happens in my my opinion. These things feed each other. So, you know, you have more energy, you get better sleep, you want to work out instead of like, I don't really feel like working out. You just do because you actually have energy and you want to. So you go work out and you feel better and you eat better, and all of a sudden all of this, like it just gets better and better and better. And and so your whole health and wellness improved dramatically in just 24 hours wearing the x 39 patch, your body resets 3000 to 4000 genes to a younger and healthier state. That's wow, huge 3000. So that's what genius that we know genes can express one way or another. Why not what let's get them in the all the optimum state in a in the best way possible. 

Rich Bennett 27:46
So you keep saying 12 hours on, 12 hours off. Does it matter or is it or is better to have the patch on while you're sleeping or while your weight be inactive? 

Darlene Greene 27:59
So good question. Most people there are there are patches and night patches. So one of them, there's a patch for sleep. It's silent Night. You would only wear that one at night. Right? And it does okay. You know, it is it improves your production of serotonin and melatonin. Naturally. So it's really lovely. So that's a nice patch, though. Yeah. There's another patch called Elevate It. It's also a night patch, and that's a patch that actually improves the health of your organs. And your skin is your largest organ. So what it's doing is it's elevating the epithelium and peptide. So if you think about this little patch has a little crystal lattice structure inside each crystal that a structure is different. And so each patch that is different is elevating a different thing, right? One is elevating. Good to seven x 39 is elevating GHQ, the alpha beta patches, elevating epithelium and that increases organ function. Well, people think of organs as all the stuff inside your skin is actually your largest organ. So when people start to see, you know, the lines are decreased and their skin looks better and the collaging and they're tight, tighter and I'm not kidding you, it's remarkable how soft my skin is tighter. All of that is just for me, amazing. But is what I love is it's actually improving your frontal lobe, your adrenal glands, your liver, your hypothalamus, your pituitary gland, your thyroid gland, your kidneys and your pancreas. So it's really improving the health. And there's a study that shows proving improving the health of the these organs. So so I love that those two are nice patches. The others are typically worn during the day. You can wear any of them, All of them. None of them, you know, you can wear I wear I wear the x 39, the x 49, the iron. The good thing on the card, I've seen the SB six and the energy enhancer every day. No one has to do that. No one needs to do that. I want you. I had autoimmune issues. I wanted all of it. There's an amazing thing with the x 49. I love x 49. So it's also it's the only other stem cell activation pouch x. But the problem is you can't tell your stem cells where to go. I want them to all go, like to my husband's brain. Right. And unfortunately they're going to say to me, Well, honey, your husband did 30 years in the Navy. He was a naval aviator. We have to start with his liver. You know, I don't know. I don't know where they're going to begin. Right. Just like for me, I don't know where they're going to begin. But the x 49 elevates a different peptide. It's the daughter peptide at GHQ, It's called HQ. And this daughter peptide is specifically found in the brain and the muscles and the heart. And so what happens is by taking x 49, I know that it's going to go right to where I want it. It's going to improve his cardiovascular system, his focus, his cognition. And what I love about this patch for me, especially my age, is that it improves bone density and muscle mass. So, you know, everyone talks about, at my age, losing weight. I'm not talking about losing weight anymore, ever. I'm talking about making muscle dropping fat. That's because most diets ozempic and those things are horrible because the first thing you're losing is muscle mass and water. But that is what you need to hold on to. For every precious muscle pound you have. And you want to drop only the body fat. And this does that. There's actually a great double blind placebo controlled study showing how it's increasing lean muscle mass and causing fat loss. But there's even more that the AKC does, and I love that it is also a Faraday cage. It reduces the impact of cell phone radiation. So it's really great to protect yourself with that as well. 

Rich Bennett 31:37
All right. Crazy question for you because we've been talking about basically everything. What it does. Well, I had another question for biology for that one. 

What about as far as like animals? Yeah, Yeah. Oh, come on. 

Darlene Greene 31:53
No, there's actually a whole line of patches called AQ life. Vets are using them for horses and dogs and cats. In fact, here's what we do, which we take it off after 12 hours and then we put it on our pet because there's still a little life left in the patch. There's probably 18 or 19 hours of life in the patch. And so there's that that would normally go to waste unless you stuck it on someone else. Right? But we put it on our on our dog. So my sister's dog had since since a puppy always had gut issues and not good bowel movements. Right. Which is a problem when you're a pet owner. 

Rich Bennett 32:26
Well, especially a puppy too. 

Darlene Greene 32:28
Just like her microscopic colitis cleared up in three weeks. So did her dogs. So did her dogs. And they tried every single type of food and they tried all sorts of things from the vet. Nothing worked, but her dogs didn't. So there are that you can get the dogs out of pain or the horses out of pain with the ice wave. The ice wave in the liver exactly the same. But you can take off the 39 and put it on your pet. There are people who are faster to bite. I have a friend. She loves her cats. Her cats are her babies. She pack. She would pack her pet cats before she would pet herself because that's just where the love is, right? She just, you know. And so, yes, you can pass them. You can put you can put a little bit tape around them or you can put a human face in the wrong direction on a collar. You can you can face outward. It doesn't matter which direction is. It's like a double sided little mirror. Right. It can go in the top of their head or wherever. But yes, we have a lot of people, most everyone who has a pet who's doing the patches for themselves is also patching their pet. And the stories the stories are absolutely phenomenal. You know, my pet couldn't stand or walk and now it's like running around like a puppy. 

Alicia Hamilton 33:36
Is there a good place to find some meals, reviews or experiences that's maybe not the product website because, you know, you're going to see all the good stuff on there. But is there like, you know, other good places to read about people's experiences? 

Darlene Greene 33:53
You know, I don't I don't know. You know, I have I have access to a whole website of testimonials. And so they're mostly all the positive ones, right? The only thing that I've I've seen two things happen myself with people that have been on the patches. One is nothing. They just don't wait long enough. They just are like, not experiencing anything because, you know, they say to wear the patches one month for every decade you are old. So they're there is a story of a. 

Rich Bennett 34:24
Okay, okay. 

Darlene Greene 34:25
Okay one month for every decade. So you know seven months for me. Right. And that that may be how long it takes for you to feel something. Most people, 80% of people feel something in 3 to 6 weeks and a good thing they're more energy or they're mostly but there are that 20% who often don't. And if they don't, they trip. They typically just get out, right? They just go, This isn't working for me. And they and they quit. The only other thing I've seen happen is detoxing. So we talked about how x 39 increases your good 2000 levels and it causes the body to dump toxins. Well, if you're really sensitive and you've got some nasty toxins in there and you're not drinking enough water, you can have that floating around and you can get a headache or you can start to feel fatigued. So we push half of your body weight in ounces of water every single day. You have to drink a lot of water. And if you start to experience anything negative, like fatigue or headache, push more water and then maybe just take the patch off for the day and call it a day because you're just you're you can't detox too quickly. If you detox too quickly, that's actually worse because now it's get floating and then it gets reabsorbed. Right. We want to we want to push it all the way out. So those are the only negative things that I there's one other thing occasionally very, very rare, I guess, and like very rare, but occasionally you'll have retracing. Retracing is what happens when some someone maybe like I've had two shoulder surgeries. So it would be possible for me to experience when those stem cells are going in there and breaking down the old scar tissue and putting in fresh tissue and remodeling in there. Sometimes something that hasn't hurt, but it was a former energy injury can they can experience pain there for a little while, just like a day or a week, not very long, but something that they had an it felt for a long time can start to ache a little bit while it is remodeling that. But that's really rare. But those are the only things I've ever heard of. And I've, you know, I've read a lot. I have really investigated and and I guess the thing I would say is, since it's just late going in your you know, since, you know, the Olympic Olympians would not be able to wear these, they did you can actually go back and see there was a full investigation of the Olympic swim team because they swept the medals that year. They were wearing these patches and there was like, what's in the patches? And there was a big investigation. What is it doing something to their, you know, something in their blood. And no, nothing was going in their blood. And it was all fine. 

Well, my question, a good question, but I don't know of a place, you know. And the one thing I would also say is there are times when people will buy it from like Amazon or something. Well, that's not our company and that's who knows what that actually is. Right. And the other thing is that if you left things out in the sun for, you know, some period of time, they would be activated and then they would be dead so somebody could resell their patches that are dead to get money. And they don't work anymore because they've just been all the inside is sort of broken down, right? So you want to make sure it's coming from the company. And part of why I became a consultant is exactly to help with the questions that you're asking. Alicia, I want to hold someone's hand through the process. I want to say, you know, let's go slowly. Don't do what I did, which is start on all the patches. Day one throughout. You should start at next 3930 on for a little while first and make sure you're fine and you're getting enough water and that you're not experiencing detox. And then then maybe, you know, the next month or a couple of weeks later. Now let's add glue the thing on and then let's start with it twice a week and then let's go see how that occurs. And then let's go three times a week and then let's see, have you know, let's ease into this sort of how, how and when and which patches are something that I'm now very familiar with. And I do a weekly webinar with a doctor on the call and anybody can join this webinar and ask the doctor questions. I you know, I'm a consultant, I have credibility, but the doctors always have more credibility right there. Sometimes people just really want to hear it with it from a doctor, right? So she she she's there to answer questions as well, which is nice because people like to hear that. 

Rich Bennett 38:44
So how do people find this? 

Darlene Greene 38:46
Well, they come to my website. I am reverse aging dot com so i a. R. A v e. R. S e. A g i indeed.com. That's a website where you can reach out to me or you can buy the patches if you don't want to talk to me. If you do, I still sort of reach out to people and say, Make sure your drinking water. Let me know how it goes if you have any troubles. Right. You know, but you can you can read all the 90 clinical studies on that website. You can retest, hear testimonials from NFL players or doctors. You can learn more about how this patch is actually working, what it's doing for you. Yeah, it's really it's really amazing. So that website has more information. You can't you can't even get through it all in a day. Like there's just a ton and ton a ton of information, but there's also really cool before and after pictures. There's a great video of horses just for you, Rich. Just catch you asked about pets. You have to It's a little four minute video called Horses Don't Lie. And in this video, they're showing the pain patches on the horse and then they take them off. So the horse is in pain when you just touch it. And then they put the pain patches on and now they they press, they push. The horse is fine. They take the patch off, they press, they push. The horse is not fine. They put the patches. I mean, it's just like amazing. And the owners of the horses are just awesome. So it's fun to see that because you a lot of people will say, well, it's the placebo effect. Okay, honestly, fine, I'll take even if it was just the placebo effect, it's gotten rid of all of my things. It brought my husband back. Who he doesn't he wasn't thinking about having his bald spot get smaller and smaller and have hair grow. He wasn't thinking about the things that have improved for him, whistling or drumming or getting a sense of smell that no one ever suspected that would happen. So placebo I get. But you don't even then it's doesn't work. So placebo effect doesn't work for horses. So, you know, that's part of, part of why I really love that video is that yeah. 

Rich Bennett 40:46
I just want a bunch of them to pull on my head and help work my hair back. 

Darlene Greene 40:50
Yeah, well, the next 39 and 49 are superior for growing gray hair because it's, you know, people are sometimes having stem cell injections into their head for hair. So this just activates your own stem cells and puts them to work. And not only just growing it in, it comes in darker. So my husband's hair has been silver, gray, blonde for as long as I've known him. And now it's coming in Chestnut brown. And I'm like, When did you ever have chestnut brown hair? And he's like, When I was a kid. So that's really kind of fun to see, but not something we expected or even really honestly cared about. But it's, it's sort of nice. 

Rich Bennett 41:28
Yeah. And the thing is, you you see athletes all the time going to all these different countries for stem cell injections, 

which I guess they don't see. 

Darlene Greene 41:40
So they don't do that. That's why I had to go to Guadalajara. Yeah. No, I had to go out of country. Kind of scary. Not sure what you're getting. 

Rich Bennett 41:48
Yeah. Yeah. 

Darlene Greene 41:50
Not sure you're really getting what you're paying for. It's all very suspect. Unless you're really rich and you're able to like own things. 

Rich Bennett 41:57
But the right one. 

Darlene Greene 41:58
Yeah, I did the best, you know. And I don't know what we, we, we, they were reputable. There were doctors from the United States going there. It was recommended to us by other people who had had success. But but no, I. I'm with you and I. You can get exorcisms in the United States and sort of a some section of stem cells which which some find to have great benefit. But it is also I mean, my doctor, my naturopath does that and it's 5000 for an I.V. and, you know, so it's expensive. I got to do it multiple times. So so that's why when I found out this little patch is $99 for a one month supply, $99 for x 39 for a one month supply, that is a most amazing deal. It's just really. And then $49 for the well, 69 if you're just getting it once. But each supportive sleeve is anywhere between 49 and 69, depending on how many you get. So just the 39 and 49, the stem cell activation patches are 99, there 150 retail, but nobody buys retail. You either you buy through a preferred program or you you become a brand partner. You get them wholesale. There's no obligation. There's always a money back guarantee for any of it. So yeah, it's really, really very affordable. And, you know, you you talk about you talk about in your podcast businesses, you talk about opportunities about, you know, businesses that people are doing from wherever. This has a business component to it that is a really beautiful world. The people that I work with in this company, they're the most amazing, wonderful people because they all care about helping people with their health. It is what it is. I'm I grew up in the Navy. I could care less about profitability. I'm sorry. It just it's not it's not my thing. I don't really I love helping people. I love taking care of people. I love being able to make people feel better. It's just an honor, really. And so I'm surrounded by people of that kind of same ilk. They take their they take their health very seriously. They want to help other people. But ultimately, I'm not I'm not else. I'm also not wasting my time doing it all for free. I do get some payment back and ultimately that will grow in a passive residual income that will help me in a retirement plan, that will help me with whatever care I need for my husband. So it's not it's not all for not. But it but but I honestly, I would almost do it for free anyway because I have I had this my friend, the doctor, she called me one day and she said, Hey, I have someone who's in tremendous pain. They really need to get ice patch and I can't get to them today. Could you please, could you come to your house and could you patch her? And our patches don't come in for like five days. I said center over. She, she came over, she had had a brain surgery gone bad and neck fusion surgery. She had cried the whole day. He had cried for many, many days and many, many years. And she was at my house. We we probably patched her one spot that was in quite a dropped it from so she was at an eight pain. She had already taken pain medication She was at an eight. The first location that I did right on the back of her neck dropped to a four. I'm like, No, I'm looking for zero or one. I put it two in the next place. Three. I'm like, No, I'm looking for zero or one. I got it to the third place. It dropped to zero or one and she was just like about to cry because the relief, the joy, the touch to finally be out of pain. Well, it, it, it was food for my soul. It served me every bit as much as I searched her that day. And it was just an honor to be able to do that. So and with all the things going on in my life with my husband, which is hard, it's hard to be a care provider of someone who's an adult, adult, five year old. Right. That needs you all the time. And that to watch the demise and to watch the loss of your loved one, it's just hard. 

This is the silver lining for me that has fed my soul in a way that makes it possible for me. I want I know that there are people out there who are where I was two years ago, three years ago, if I would have known about this and could have gotten my hands on this three years ago, I don't I really am not kidding when I tell you I don't think my husband would be where he is today. I don't think we'll ever get him all the way back to normal or 100% or reverse Alzheimer's. But along the way, I have him back. He's not a shell of himself. He's not comatose. He's not sleeping the day away. He's engaging in conversation. He's getting back skills. But those matter in the quality of life. And that's the case, of course, in my quality. It's certainly helped me to be able to be a better care provider because I need a lot of energy to do that. I need the patients that I need to be calm and I need, you know, all of that matters when you're a care provider. 

Rich Bennett 46:50
Well, I want to talk to you about something else. But first, I want to check on Felicia to see if she's any more questions for you about the patches. 

Alicia Hamilton 46:59
Now and say, you see my eyes sometimes glancing over. Maybe it's because I'm looking up things. I haven't heard of this before, so I'm just trying to learn more about it. And how come? So I know you can get it through. You. Are there distributors? Is there a way to get it? Like in stores? I know you said not Amazon because it would be, but it's it's not appropriate for like. 

Darlene Greene 47:22
There are some doctors there there are some doctors that have it on their shelf and they'll charge you $150 to just take it out of their office. But then they'll recommend that you sign up to get it for $99 you can buy at retail on the website for $50 if you really want to. 

So that's that's doable. That's sort of like buying it out of your shelf anywhere, right? You know, when you buy at retail at $150, you have a 90 day money back guarantee when you buy wholesale and $99, then it's a 30, 30 day money back guarantee, no questions asked. So there is a little bit of a difference in that. But yeah, I, I haven't ever seen it. I will tell you, interestingly enough, three of my doctors are wearing the patches and I was a little upset about that, too. Like, why, why didn't you talk about this with me? And they're like, Well, you know, you have to realize we get in trouble for recommending and pushing vitamin C, as you know. You know, we have to be so careful with what we say. And and they are kind of bound and handcuffed by big Pharma to some degree, particularly Western medicines like the integrative medicine. Doctors and naturopaths are a little bit more on the edge. But yeah, I, 

I it's frustrating to me. I understand why, but it is still frustrating to me. That's part of why I am doing this. I am a very private person. I literally posted on Facebook when my daughter graduated from the Naval Academy and then three years later when my other daughter graduated from the Air Force Academy, and that was my footprint, like my social footprint was nothing. I never would have ever dreamed of coming on line and talking about my eating, my autoimmune disorders, my husband's Alzheimer's. I mean, no freaking way. So it's just like, but but if it helps one person by me sharing and it will help way more, it will help anybody that doing it, you know, help anybody that tries it. They just it just depends on how long do they have to work before they know that it's helping. If you did the bloodwork and you did the MRI's and you did some of the tests that you could see it on yourself. But most people aren't measuring all of those things. 

Rich Bennett 49:38
Real quick because I'm looking at the time, but I have to know how long were you in the Navy for? 

Darlene Greene 49:44
20 years. 

Rich Bennett 49:46
So you retired from the Navy? 

Darlene Greene 49:47
I retired as a Navy commander. I had three commanding officer, three commanding officer tours. My last one was over 1200 people. I had 800 Navy and 400 Marines near and Georgia. Your heart and I helped to build a program that you'll leverage because it reminded me a little bit of the the program that I was listening to on your podcast. The one that's helping the school kids routes are I can't remember the name of Roots. 

Rich Bennett 50:13
Yeah, we just have yeah. 

Darlene Greene 50:15
I love that program. I love that they built it from scratch and that this was I built I helped with a team I stood in front of about, I don't know, 400 folks one weekend and said, Hey, I want to do I want to build a program that better supports you and your spouse when you come back from Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan, Iraq, all of these places. And I don't know what that needs to look like, but I bet you do. If you'll help me build that, let's let's change the support you all get. And I had a lot of volunteers. And in the course of the year, we built a curriculum. We got amazing keynote speakers. We had small group discussions and big discussion. We had about 120 people at a returnee where weekend workshop, that's what we called it, Returnee where weekend workshop. And the program really made a huge benefit to people who were well, they, they were all having trouble because unlike previous deployments, they had deployed as individuals. They had been plucked out of their unit, sent overseas and then come back as an individual, not as a command. And so this created issues for not only the member but the spouses. So when they came back, the spouses thought they were screwed up and there were problems and they didn't understand what was going on for them and they didn't have anybody they were talking to that had also gone through it with them. The spouses don't have any spouses to talk to and figure out like, is this normal or is your husband or your wife doing this? So it were they were very much alone and not really talking. And one of the things I love that your program talks about is the importance of talking and getting the conversation started. And this weekend was intended to bring the couple together and have conversations like in a small group. Why I want to go back. Well, imagine they've just gotten back from being deployed a year and one of the first things out of their mouth the first week they're home is I'm going to sign up and I'm going back. And the spouse is like, are you kidding me? You know, they take it very personally. They feel like it's a it's a testament to their relationship and the love that the husband or wife has for them. And they are livid. And so when you get them all in a room and you ask how many of you want to go back and all of them raise their hand, then the spouse looks around and says, okay, this isn't really about me at all. There's something bigger going on. And then they have an opportunity to explain what's going on as well as here are the symptoms. And and this is what PTSD looks like here. Here is a I did a presentation on transformational growth and how, you know, yes, this is tough right now, but you can butterfly out of this cocoon in a bit and we only really grow with hard things. Right. So it was a very successful program and we had 100% of people say they recommended it for other people. And then my my boss asked me to spread it throughout the Southwest region. So I first built it for my own command and then we spread it through the southwest and then it spread through the nation. And Rich, it's Alisha. It is still going on today. 17 years later, that program is run by the Yellow Ribbon panel. And I'm really probably one of the things that I'm most proud of in my life is that program. And I just met with some of the people that helped me build it yesterday for lunch because and they're just they're just really special, wonderful people. But I love that we built something and we have this legacy and it was so intrinsically rewarding. I would have, you know, saltine maybe chiefs crying and saying, You, you changed my life, you saved my marriage. Or some of them would write in and say, You saved my life. 

Alicia Hamilton 53:46
Wow, I love that. 

Rich Bennett 53:48
That is awesome. Oh, God. So 20 years. 

Darlene Greene 53:55
Yeah. 

Rich Bennett 53:56
So do you do you sometimes think that you wanted to stay in longer? 

Darlene Greene 54:03
No, I. Okay. No, I. I had a couple major things happen. I divorced my daughter's father, and when I did that, I knew I was, you know, I had had a very successful career. Like I was selected for promotion a year ahead of my peers. I had been asked to go work for the head admiral in the Navy. You know, he offered me six different jobs, like I had really a lot of opportunity. But I also I'm you know, I worked a lot and I knew what that meant. That next step meant I would not be home to see and take care of my children. And it's one thing to be home and or to not be home if you've got a solid marriage and you've got a spouse helping and it's all fine. But when you fracture the family like that, like I did. Yeah. And they're their bio dad has 

narcissistic personality disorder and obsessive compulsive personality disorder and no boundaries. So we were always having to counter to the negative impacts of that. So I just had to I had to leave to be able to be there for my kids. And I wanted to be able to stabilize them in a place where my parents were around and my sister was around, you know, just family could be there. I had never, ever had family around while raising children at all. And so I was so grateful to finally be in a place where I could have family support. So as much as I loved the Navy, I was ready. I was ready. And I needed to. Oh. 

Rich Bennett 55:41
So how many different countries were you able to go to? 

Darlene Greene 55:45
But none was. I didn't travel anywhere. You need to tell us the countries that you went to. I was sure based always. Yeah. I never I don't think I ever went to my country, ever. I was excited. I got to go to Hawaii one time. That was like, yay, you know? 

Rich Bennett 56:01
But I never made it. I never made it. 

Darlene Greene 56:02
There I was. I was always in the U.S.. 

Rich Bennett 56:07
I would have been upset about that 20 years in. It didn't even get to travel. But I made the world well. 

Darlene Greene 56:15
I'm glad I joined. We were not, you know, women were barely on ships. Yeah, barely like I was. I thought about it initially came in. I wanted to fly jets. You can see I'm wearing glasses. My eyes went bad. My second year of college, and I and I, you know, was a marrying a surface warfare officer so that, you know, flying and surface warfare don't really go very well together. So, you know, I made the decision to just do the shore based management. And I love that ultimately for me, because it did allow me to be a mom and stay stay at home in a normal environment, not on a ship deployed for a year. And like my daughter has done right, those kinds of things are not easy when you have a family. So it's it worked out really well for me. Nobody today can do what I did. Like they have to go to sea. They have to be in either aviation or surface warfare or submarines. So my my girls couldn't do what I did, which, you know. Sorry. 

Rich Bennett 57:15
So where was your favorite duty station? 

Darlene Greene 57:18
Oh, wow. 

Rich Bennett 57:20
You're out now, so you can say it. 

Darlene Greene 57:23
Yeah, I. I would say 

it's kind of a toss up. I loved my my first major command. Well, not major command, because major commands mean something bigger, but I did. I had a commanding officer position in Orange, Texas. And we it was interesting. I was the first woman base commander and they 

it was southeast Texas and very different world there. And so I loved this because I was a very big part of the community and they were very, very gracious, very beautiful. And I had a staff, I had a great team. I had you know, we made a difference. We were awarded actually national commendation for helping families in our and our people in their in their deployments. So we we did great things, but we also we had six warehouses that used to build Navy ships. We had 16 acres. We were on the Sabine River. We had landing craft. We had the Mexican navy would pull into my pier. You know, I just it was very fascinating. We had a veterans fair with 4000 people that came on to the base one year, and we celebrated and we delivered Purple Hearts and we had balloons that flew. And I'm proud to be an American playing. And and that community was just so great. And they, you know, when I left, they they named you know, I had a day named after me and they they commissioned a portrait and I got two keys to two cities. And my boardroom turned a sword and they gave me a sword and said, We will follow you into battle anywhere. So it was a really very special, special command. 

Rich Bennett 59:07
I love that. I love that. Well, before I get to my last question, I'll ask Alisha. She's got anything Now. 

Alicia Hamilton 59:14
I think that sounds like you've had an incredible career and just how you were sharing with your kids earlier and the path that they've chosen and the work that you're doing now with, you know, helping people improve their health and improve their lives and making sure people know about this product, I think it's just amazing. Yeah. And I can also testify to your skin here because you were talking about razors can look great. I never would have I would have at most maybe put you young forties, you know. So yeah, because I know people won't be able to see you. Yeah, I can testify to that for sure. Your hair looks great. Yeah. Thank you. 

Darlene Greene 59:52
Yeah, I'm. I'm actually 59 now, but proud. Proud of my 59. I've. You know, heard all the years I've got it in me. But I'm trying to get better and reverse age. That's why my website called I'm reverse aging dot com. Right. 

Rich Bennett 1:00:05
You know what I have to tell you this, Darlene, because you made me feel really old because you said, No, wait a minute. Now. You said with the patch, you wear it for one month for every decade that you've worked for your age, whatever. And you said seven decades. And I'm saying, I think as a women, I'm older than her. I ain't no frickin 70 years old. Then I. 60, 70. And then I realized that seven decades and that made me feel old ish. Thanks a. 

Darlene Greene 1:00:35
Lot. You're still young at. 

Alicia Hamilton 1:00:36
Heart, right? 

Darlene Greene 1:00:37
Well, you know what? 

Rich Bennett 1:00:38
I have a patch for that. 

Darlene Greene 1:00:39
I have a package that will help your mindset around that. And we'll start getting you looking and feeling younger every single day. 

Rich Bennett 1:00:45
It weighed me way. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. You looking young? I don't look 25 now. 

Darlene Greene 1:00:52
You do look very young. You do. You absolutely do. 

Rich Bennett 1:00:56
I love it when a guest lies for you. 

Darlene Greene 1:01:00
You know, we only look as young as we feel, right? But it's. I look on the outside. It's a reflection of our health on the inside. So our wrinkles actually are a loss of collagen. And that is actually our collagen is the most abundant protein in our body. So it really is a reflection of what's going on in our inner organs. We just don't we just sort of think about it from a vanity perspective, but we can get rid of those. 

Rich Bennett 1:01:22
Hey. 

Darlene Greene 1:01:22
Botox. 

Rich Bennett 1:01:24
There's something I don't want to get rid of because I felt really good the last time I to the dermatologist and he told me I had wisdom spots. 

Darlene Greene 1:01:33
Wisdom spots. 

Rich Bennett 1:01:35
And yes, I've never heard him call that when told my wife she goes that there age spots. I said, Oh shit. He said their wisdom spots. So it just goes to prove that you married somebody that's very smart and I'm very wiser as I get older. 

Darlene Greene 1:01:50
Yes, well, I have my. 

Rich Bennett 1:01:52
Daughter and I'm sticking to it. 

Darlene Greene 1:01:53
I had a pretty substantial size wisdom spot over here. Pretty big brown age spot that just disappeared. 

Rich Bennett 1:02:01
From the patch. 

Darlene Greene 1:02:02
Yes. 

Rich Bennett 1:02:03
Let's see. So now you're not is why is it. 

Darlene Greene 1:02:06
I know I'm I'm going to have to just be stronger rather than resources to. 

Rich Bennett 1:02:14
Oh, no, darling. Is there anything you like to add before I get to my last question, which I. And I have a feeling, you know what, my last question. 

Darlene Greene 1:02:22
I just want to say that the there is an anesthesiologist in a 40 year physician who has said that the 39 patch is the most significant medical breakthrough in my lifetime. So there are 60 I've heard 60% of our company are practitioners. There's a reason for that. I think this is going to change medicine in the future. Quite honestly, we do not have to be. You know, most people only think in terms of pharmaceuticals and surgeries, and that's because most doctors are trained by a curriculum that is established by Big Pharma. So that's what they know. But as more and more doctors are sharing with more doctors and doctors who are courageous sharing with patients, I just think that this has the opportunity to just just change the landscape of medicine. 

Rich Bennett 1:03:12
Yeah. And I'm the type I don't even like to. I mean, I got to be in tears before I even pop a Motrin. 

Darlene Greene 1:03:17
Well, that's great. You can have ice within yourself at any time. And you take Motrin so bad for your stomach right? And you know, all of these things are bad for your microbiome, which is bad for your brain. There are seven signals that go from your gut to your brain for every one that goes from the brain to the gut. So we really want to take care of our of our gut health and something that is this easy but actually more effective. There was a guy that had seven foot surgeries and had taken morphine and Percocet for over two decades every single day. And he started on Ice Wave. He said the ice wave did more for him than the morphine. So he stopped taking his morphine immediately. And now he's only down to one Percocet on the hours that he's not on the ice wave. And he's not even always having to because of the 39 in the iron and the other patches. Things are healing up for him and he's not even having to do the ice wave all the time. So he is just a changed person. He's walking about. He couldn't even walk before. So it's really, really changing people's lives. And I love that. It's not just not just not doing harm, it's actually doing good. 

Alicia Hamilton 1:04:28
Can I put in something now? You have to just hard to do so. So so I work I do a lot of social work that's that's my focus nonprofit world all of that. I think something like this would be phenomenal for the populations of people that I work with, but they aren't. They're the Medicaid people. They're the people that, you know, out-of-pocket costs are just not a thing. So I don't know where the company is now. I know it's much more cost effective than a lot of the other treatments that you talked about, But it still is prohibitive for certain populations that really could drastically change their whole family systems and lives with that. So if you have connections with whoever is making those decisions, it would be amazing to have a community, some sort of community service, or just something where it recognizes that those populations could really use the assistance to do that. 

Darlene Greene 1:05:36
Yeah, you're not wrong, Alicia. I know that the owner and founder and visionary David Schmidt has actually donated a lot of patches. He donated a lot to Maui. He's donated to our veterans. So there are programs to help. I mean, the the company, even though it's been in existence for 20 years, it's really since this x 39 patch, which has only been in existence for years. It's it's grown 20 times in the last four years. So it's exploding. And I would say this anybody who really is willing to work for the patch, like you can just join the business. It doesn't take very many people for you to share the patch with, to buy the patch under you, to pay for your own patches so it truly can be accessible to anyone who can reach out and help others find the patches. Right. Because it can be it can be a source of income. 

Alicia Hamilton 1:06:32
That's right. Yeah. 

Rich Bennett 1:06:34
So you're you're I have a funny feeling you were preparing for this. Out of all the podcasts you've been on because you've been on a lot, I think, what, over 40? 

Alicia Hamilton 1:06:46
I don't even know. 

Darlene Greene 1:06:47
I don't. 

Rich Bennett 1:06:47
Even know. I think it's maybe over 50 now. Is there a host has Never Edge asked you that you wish they would have asked you, and if so, what would be that question? What would be your answer? And it doesn't necessarily have to be about the patches or even the Navy. 

Darlene Greene 1:07:06
You know, I think I actually have thought about this question because I know you ask this question and it's a very good question and it's a hard question. Thank you. I think that when I think about what I would like people to know, 

it is it is that it is more around 

there. Are there are risks, but we only control our response. So one of the things I've had to learn in life is that you don't get to be the puppeteer. So there's this philosophy and it's it's not that in common that, you know, we don't get to manage everything that's happening to our lives or in our lives, but we get to manage our response to that thing. And many people take and respond the way a doctor tells them they have to respond. I mean, the doctors told me there's no cure for your autoimmune disorders, there's no cure for fibromyalgia, there's no cure for chronic fatigue, there's no cure for Potts, there's no cure for Alzheimer's. There's nothing we can do. Check back in with me in a year. We'll see how you're doing. So it's really easy to give up hope. And I think that there is a very there's a good reason to keep looking. Your alternative answer. This is one of many. You know, we tried pulsed electromagnetic frequency maps. We've we've tried we have tried a lot of things. I have not stopped fighting. And I would just say, first of all, there's benefit in fighting, right? You feel like you're doing something. And that helps me even if it's right, even it's not maybe curing anything, but it's just helping him in some ways that's helpful. But to having the 

the acceptance, I'm trying to look at Alzheimer's. This is a very challenging thing. Even my husband's quick progression so I could look at that as like a curse or I could say what a blessing that instead of taking 12 or 14 years for him to go from stage two to stage six A that he's done it in two years because who wants to live with this dementia and these and these limitations for very long? Who wants to drag that out? So how we think about things affects our health. I think we forget how much it affects our health, how our attitudes and our responses to things are just critical to everything. And and I would I would just say, hold on for that hope and don't let anything extinguish the light inside of you and keep working towards the best optimal life you can have, whatever that looks like. 

Rich Bennett 1:09:48
I love that. Darlene I want to thank you so much. Alicia. It was good seeing you. I say Darlene or sister. 

Darlene Greene 1:09:57
Yeah, whatever you'd. 

Rich Bennett 1:09:58
For those of you listening in case because we didn't even mention this. So when Darlene contacted me, she informed me that her father's name is Rich Bennett. Which, of course, at first made me think, Oh, my God. 

Alicia Hamilton 1:10:17
Purple areas. 

Darlene Greene 1:10:19
Had been pretty young. 

Me, But I don't know, right? 

Rich Bennett 1:10:25
It's not fair that we're the same age is like, Oh, okay, what the hell did my father do? 

Darlene Greene 1:10:33
Because you are a junior or a second one. 

Rich Bennett 1:10:36
The second, right? Darlene, Thank you so much. Alicia Thank you. 

Darlene Greene 1:10:42
It's been a pleasure. I love talking with you guys. Thanks for everything you do in the community and your world.