Why You Need To Walk Through Fire with Dave Albin

Rich Bennett 0:00
Thanks for joining the conversation today. We have a truly remarkable guest with us, Dave Alvin, a man whose life story and achievements are nothing short of inspirational. Dave's journey in the personal development industry spans over three decades. A testament to his deep commitment and passion in this field, his entrepreneurial spirit was ignited at the tender age of nine, starting with a humble paper route and selling flowers on street corners. This is back in the day when paper routes were done by kids riding bicycles or walking around, throwing the newspapers on the porches. But perhaps what stands out most in Dave's career is his 19 plus years of working with the renowned Tony Robbins as part of Robin's security detail production team and notably as his fire captain, Dave played a pivotal role in overseeing all of Robin's fireworks, fireworks both domestically and internationally. A fireworks went off afterwards. 

In 2014, Dave embarked on a new venture, Founding Fire Walk Productions. This venture wasn't just a business, it was a platform for transformation through powerful storytelling and life changing experiences. Dave and his team have led hundreds of thousands of people, including celebrities, professional athletes, CEOs and numerous business teams through the empowering process of fire walking. Days Personal story is equally compelling from battling and overcoming the depths of drug and alcohol addiction to becoming a solid after figure by giants like Google, Nasser and many more. His journey is a powerful reminder of human resilience and potential. So, first of all, man, I did that and with. 

Dave Albin 1:51
What. 

Rich Bennett 1:52
I could have done. One breath. 

Dave Albin 1:53
Is okay. Well, thanks for coming on the show, Dave. 

Wow. 

Rich Bennett 1:59
I said so, first of all, because those people that are listening are probably like firewater. What the hell are you talking about, Rick? So tell. Tell everybody what I mean by fire Walk. 

Dave Albin 2:10
Sure. Well, you got itself. Fire. Walk is literally what it says. You. You. You're going to walk on hot coals. Now, if we if we do the history on it and we do a little research, we'll find it goes back well over a thousand years. Cultures all around the world have used it for a variety of very powerful reasons a rite of passage graduations, marriages, the birth of children, manhood, womanhood, you name it. It's been used for those purposes. That's adhesions. You know, they're they're really into it. They they handle fire. They they pass it around. They they walk on it. The people of India also really, really spiritual connection with the fire and various ways that they use the fire walk experience, 

the, you know, the Polynesians, the Hawaiians, the Native American Indians here in the U.S. and Canada and the Portuguese, the Spaniards, the Hindu Europeans, they used it in before the before the warriors would go into battle the night before. Right. Right. They would they would do the fire, walk and create it, the connectivity and the camaraderie. And in fact, if you didn't fire walk, you weren't allowed to go to battle, which meant that you would dishonor your family. So it's oh, wow. Right. It's been around used by and, you know, people in the West don't know unless you studied it. You're really not going to know any thing about it other than Tony Robbins. Right. Because Tony Tony brought it into his events because he knows it's one of the most life changing paradigm shift experiences out there, period. I don't know of anything that holds a candle close to a fire. 

Rich Bennett 3:55
Unattended right. 

Dave Albin 3:55
Handed. Right. So it's there, you know, the proof is there. And anybody that's done it knows exactly what I'm talking about. It's scary. It's a real, real fight or flight moment when you're looking down at those coals and there are a thousand degrees and they're glowing bright red. I can tell you you're you're like, okay, why in the hell am I doing this? Right? You know, it's like Oprah said, you know, when she did her fire walk back in 2010, she says, you know, this is unreasonable. You know, this is not right. Mammals, you know, humans, we're taught to run from fire, much less go towards it and walk on it. So and the cool thing is that if you go Google Oprah's fire walk, you'll see that it really depicts what somebody goes through, because in the beginning, before she walks, she's losing it. I mean, she's losing it big time. Yeah, right. And then there's a moment where she goes, okay, well, I guess I got to do this right, because if I don't, I'm you know, I'm allowing to get a little good on television and I'm allowing fear to control my life. I mean, that's really what it comes down to. It's the fear. Okay. So she does it. She fire walks. And when she's done, she celebrates like a kid. She's jumping up and down and screaming. I mean, you know, it's live on camera. You can watch it. And then what's here's the powerful part is that once she's done, she walks over, the cameras, go with her, and she makes one of the biggest business decisions of her life. And the reason she did that is because, you know, again, it's hey, Robin, my dog's over. I don't know what he's doing. He's having a good time over there. Get a dog. They said. 

So, yeah, it's it's it's powerful and it's pretty, pretty, pretty cool experience. And it's life changing and how in. 

Rich Bennett 5:41
The world did you get into it? 

Dave Albin 5:43
Well, I so the path for me was it was kind of a painful path, right? I got sober in June of 1988, June 8th. I woke up that morning, Rich, and I was it. Man, I'm done. I'm out. I'm grossly addicted to heroin, cocaine, alcohol. Oh, wow. I'm in my third marriage. I got three stepkids. I loved them dearly, but I'm not a nice guy. I'm living in the basement. They're living upstairs. And when I woke up that morning, I said, That's it. We're done. I'm out of here. I'm not doing this anymore. And so the only thing I thought to do in the moment was take my life. I had a pistol and I knew how to use it. And as I'm preparing to do that, it dawns on me if you pull that trigger, yeah, maybe your problems are over. But those three kids upstairs and their mom, you're going to destroy their lives. 

Rich Bennett 6:31
Right? 

Dave Albin 6:31
Creating problems for other people. You know, we know that. That suicide is what? A permanent answer to a temporary problem. And, you know, you kill everybody around you when you do it. So that's why it's needs to help. You know, we need to do what we can to help stop it. Right. So I was having my own dilemma there and I'm like, You can't do that, man. You got to figure out something else to do here. What else can you do? And then the thought came called Alcoholics Anonymous. Well, the interesting part about that, which was I didn't even know who the hell I was in that moment, I'd never been to really I never been there. I didn't know anybody in a saw. The thought come from. So I did. I called AA and I got this amazing woman on the on the phone and I affectionately nicknamed her Madge. Over the years, MADD saved my life. And the reason I call her guys, she talk like this, She she, she smoked two packs of Pall Mall. My brother's a day or whatever, right? So she had a really. 

Rich Bennett 7:30
Says, like my mother and her name was Madge. 

Dave Albin 7:32
Oh, my gosh. Seriously? Oh, by the way, folks, that wasn't planned. That was just, you know, we because we you said, like what? So MADD saved my life, which she so she's the gatekeeper. She's answering the phone for Intergroup and she's the one who makes a decision and decides if she's going to call someone to come pick you up. So I must have given her enough information because she did. And she called a cool guy named Lauren. And Lauren came pick me up. I went to four meetings that first day. I went to a 1230 or 40 day. What's that? That first day I with the four many. Yeah. 1234, 36 and 830. And when I was there they gave me one of these. Yeah. Nice little chips. 24 hours. And then I came back the next day and then they gave me one for one month, two months, three months, six months, nine months and one year. And then I got one every year thereafter. I just picked up one here in June of 2023 for 434 years. So yeah, that's and so what happened there is that as I'm getting sober, I have insomnia, right? I'm up late at night all the time. I sleep patterns are all over the place and I'm up late one night, 3:00 in the morning. There he is, a young, vibrant, enthusiastic Tony Robbins. Right. So in his program, Personal Power Guthy-Renker. He he owned the airways back then. He was the infomercial KING, That's for sure. Yeah. So, you know, I didn't like the guy, honestly, when I first saw him on TV and watch the infomercial, I thought he was an ass pompous and all motivated, you know, not right. So this is it. Very this isn't going well with me. And so then but he said two things that got me rich. First thing he said was, we'll do more to avoid pain than we will to gain pleasure. And I went, Well, holy crap, that's why I drank. I was either running from pain or chasing pleasure, but drinking and drugging, right? So that made sense to me. And then he said, The way humans make decisions is we we're inspired by either inspiration or desperation. And I'm like, Dude, I'm pretty desperate. So maybe I had to listen to this dude. And so I bought this program and it came in a big old box and was cool, was 

it came on these little white things called cassette tapes. Cassettes? Yeah. Like some of your listeners are aren't going to know what those are, right? They're right up there. They're in the Smithsonian with eight tracks and reel to reels. So. God, yeah, there we were. And, and I went through the program and I did what the man taught me to do, and it worked. And. And then I loaned the tape program to a buddy of mine in AA, my buddy, Dan Gann, Kappa Kappa Bianco. He just passed away here a couple of weeks ago now. And, yeah, I'm going to make a YouTube video about his life. He he he was a super, super one of the greatest humans I've ever known. Sweet, sweet man. Anyway, so I loaned it my loan, my program to him. And seven, eight years later, he called me on the phone in 1995 and he said, Hey, man, did you know that Tony Robbins is coming to town? I'm like, No. He goes, Do, come on, you got me into this. I read this book. I went through your tape program with you. He goes, Come on, man, go with me. I want to go see him. I said, Sure, You know, if the dates match out. Okay, we're good. I said, Great, I'll call you back. I'll make the arrangements. He calls me back. An hour later he goes, Dun, We pick out the tickets. It will call it. Here's what they told us to do. Number one, drink a lot of water, stay hydrated. Okay? Make sense to bring a lot of snacks. And the reason for that is you're going to spend time in the room. You're going to be there all day. Guy, anybody you know, the people that I'm laughing, people that have been to a Robbins event know why I'm laughing. I mean, this boy is like the Energizer Bunny, man. He can he just he doesn't stop. 

Rich Bennett 11:39
And I mean, it'll be 100 years old. It's still big. 

Dave Albin 11:42
Well, you know, he's he's only I'm only, what, four years older than him? Five years older than him, something like that. And he's, what, 64 now? I'm 69. Yeah, I'm close to that. He said bring a good attitude and be ready to play full out. I said, Dan, how much was the ticket? 

$695 in 1995. Well, hell. 

Rich Bennett 12:02
Yeah. What's that? 

Dave Albin 12:04
What's that work today? Like 1.2, 1.3 million? I don't know. Oh, hell, yeah. Buy Bitcoin. That's all I know, right? And so and as he's getting ready to get off the phone, he goes, Oh, wait, I forgot to tell you the most important part. We're going to be doing a fire walk. Well, when he told me that, I didn't know what that meant. I know what it. What does that mean? I don't know what if I walk in? Yeah, but is it when you put fire and walk together, it sound like anything I'm going to be doing. So in my head, I'm going to. 

Rich Bennett 12:31
Be walking between tiki torches. 

Dave Albin 12:33
Right? But I'm not doing it. Fear is controlling my life, you know? Yeah. Moment in my life. What if you're mean to me? Forget everything and run. That's what it meant, right? That was. Yeah, that's the meaning it took on for me. So I'm not doing it, but I'm not saying anything to Dan. I don't want him to know I'm missing out. Right. So I'm like, Yeah, right. Sure. Dan Fire walk. Yeah, no problem. Sounds fine. And nope, not doing it. It's a hard no, it's hell no for me. So the big day comes, we get to the event and 

Tony takes the stage at 2:00 in the afternoon, and the next thing I know, Rick, it's after midnight, right? Holy crap. 2:00, 10 hours. Right. Remember, bring snacks or you'll starve to death. Yeah. So and so. It's after midnight. All set. And Tony goes, Oh, by the way, I'm not doing it. I've already said, you know, No, I'm not. You people want to go do it. Go right ahead. But I'm not doing it. 

I said, Tony, go take your shoes off. And I went, Oh, no, 

I see where you're going with that, pal. You're not fooling me. I am not taking my shoes off. Well, I'm in a room with 3500 people, and guess what they're doing? 

Rich Bennett 13:49
Taking their shoes off. 

Dave Albin 13:50
Their damn shoes off. And I'm like, people know, you know, you're falling for it. Don't go. Cause they're like, you know, kind of a thing. And so and so. So now my dilemma is, what are you going to do, Dave? You're not going to take your shoes off. You go out there, everybody's going to know like, no problem. Just relax. Just take your shoes off. And when you get out there, just go hide in the back. Nobody is going to know, right? Well, other than me. Yeah. Okay. Me. All right, so. So but it gets worse because what, he gets you going out there, he gets 3500 people to start clapping and chanting. So they're going, Yes, yes, yes. 3500 people walking out into this giant parking lot, chanting and clapping. You got to be kidding me, right? Well, it gets worse because when you get out there, he's got African drummers. So now the wow is it's intense, right? Dun dun dun dun dun dun. Yes, yes. And I'm thinking, oh, my God, what a dog and pony show. This is right. And I'm like, Oh, no big deal. Just go hide the back, which I'm doing now. How do you fire walk 3500 people logistically? Well, number one, you start a fire early in the day, about the same time Tony took the stage and you burn it all day. So they build a pit. 35 probably 30, 35 feet wide. It's 70 feet long. And they just keep adding cords and cords of hardwood to it. Well, after 2 hours it renders and you have this big giant, beautiful pile of blue coals. It's gorgeous. It's a beautiful fire. Well, what they do is they take wheelbarrows over to this big pile of coals and they load the coals in a wheelbarrow, and then they pull a wheelbarrow in between two lanes of sort of grass. And the grass is three feet wide, 15 to 18 feet long. And then what they do, they just take a flathead shovel from that wheelbarrow and they sprinkle those goals on top of that grass. And that's what you walk on. Well, now let's remember, I'm having none of it. I'm in the back. Well, here's the thing. Tony Robbins knows that the fire walk experience is probably, again, one of the most profound paradigm shift experiences on Earth. That's why he chose it. He knows it's life changing, there's no question right now. So he also knows there's people like me that are going to hide out and we want nothing to do with it. So he doesn't want you not to do it because you missed off. You'll miss out on the paradigm shift. So what's he do? He trains people to come find you. So I'm thinking I got it all figured out. And no, you know, here comes this guy and he comes out of nowhere, man. And he. He makes eye contact with me, and he won't take his eyes off me. And I'm pretty sure Robbins trained him to do that. So I'm standing there, and all of a sudden the guy comes to me and he's looking at me kind of funny, gets about 20 feet from me. You know what I mean? Looking sideways like a dog. That here's a funny thing, right? And he goes, Hey, man, are you okay? And of course, when we're not okay, what do we say? What do we do? We lie. Oh, yeah, All of your man. Nothing to see. Move along right now. He says, Well, hey, man, are you going to walk tonight? And I'm like, Absolutely not. Like, Well, didn't you get the nuts? I'm not doing it. What do you think? I'm hiding in the back right? And he says, Hey, man, that's no problem. We don't want you to do anything you don't want to do. And I'm like, Oh, cool. I like this guy. He's going to get me out of here. No, he's not. He tricks, right? Next thing I know, he asked me a question that changed my life forever. I don't know who this guy is to this day, but that guy, that one man changed my life and got me in a position to be able to change hundreds of thousands of people's lives simply with one question. And that question was, wouldn't you at least like to watch? And I thought, Well, sure, let's go. Yeah, sure. That'll be entertaining. Let's go watch these people burn their feet off. Well, I get in line. I took the bait. And so, you know, I got 3500 people in front of me. I can't see anything, rich. I can hear it right. The tones are gone. They're chanting, they're clapping. People are already fire walking. When they get to the celebration end, they're screaming and jumping up and down and having a really great time. And they're screaming with exhilaration. So, you know, and so I'm just in line and I'm kind of walking along. And the next thing I know, this guy comes up to me and he says to me, he knows when you're ready. When he says go, you go. And pew, you got into the mind. I'm like, Who the hell was that? What was it? So I'm kind of walking along it. And again, I've got a thousand people in front of me, so I can't see anything. But I get to a point where I can see it. An angle down, down the lanes down here. Right. Those fire lanes are like, you know, 20, 20, up. All right. And and they're doing it. They're fire walking, man. I can see them. They're every race, every creed, every color, man. They are fire walking. And I'm thinking, you got to be kidding. What on earth are these people doing? And so 

I'm staring, right? I can't take my eyes off it. It's like, you know, it's like a car wreck. You say, Oh, I'm not going to look at it, but you stare at it anyway, right? And so I'm staring at it. And the next thing I know, boom, Guess where I am in the I'm at. Well, I'm at the or I'm at the front of the line. Right. Oh, oh, right. So I'm looking down at that lane that finally and it's just clothes are glowing bright red. The wheelbarrow is there. You could feel the heat coming off. So it got real, real fast. And I'm staring into the abyss. I'm scared to death My heart's beating so hard. I'm pretty sure it's going to jump out of my chest any second, so. Well, there's a trainer standing right there, and all of a sudden he look, you know, he. He screams at me. He goes, eyes up. Then I'm like, Oh, and I bring my eyes up. Well, duh, I'm in a room with Tony for 10 hours. Guess what he teaches you to do? Keep your eyes up. Don't stare at you, Fear. Look at this. Look at the end. Look at the celebration and focus on the outcome. Duh. I guess I'm a slow learner. So now my eyes are upright. The trainer goes, Squeeze your fist and say yes. And I went, Yes. And he went stronger. And I went, Yes. And he could tell I was not in a peak state. I wasn't there. I was leaving a lot on the table. Yeah. So he screams at me 

stronger. I threw my hands in the air and I screamed as loud as I could. And he goes, Go, go, go. Oh, I took off. Right. Remember the guy? He knows when you're ready. When he says go, you go. Yeah. I went, Well, here's the first thing I learned about fire. Walk it. When you take the first step. Oh, you'll take the second, third, fourth, the fifth, I promise you. Right. You don't stop. Well, Tony positions two people at the end, and they lock horns and they. Oh, and they're like, Stop, wipe your feet and celebrate. And I'm wiping my feet and I'm celebrating. And all of a sudden, it dawns on me. I burnt myself really bad. And I look at my foot. Oh, I look at my foot. Right? And it's dirty. It's filthy dirty. But there's no burns. There's no burns. Oh, my other foot. No. Something filthy dirty, no burns. So now I just walked on coals that were a thousand degrees. I didn't burn myself. And rich, I don't have a clue how I did it. I don't know everything like that. Right? You do something really cool, but you don't really know or remember how you did it. You did it, but you take credit for it. I'm like, That's right, that's me. I'm that guy. I just walked on. Coals are thousand degrees. Well, you know, in that moment, it's exhilarating. There's nothing like it on earth. You think you can do anything thing. And that moment, it's exhilarating. And you're down there with several thousand people and everybody's jumping up and down and cheering and. And they're celebrating. And it's like, okay, all right, where's the blast? Let's go, people. Let's go climb Everest. What's next? But, you know, the interesting part was the next day and this is how it all started for me. This is a four day event. It's called okay, This is called yuppie W at least a par within the fire walk experience four day event. The fireworks on day one, the night they're up on day two. We all come in for the next day and we're all standing in the foyer. You're getting ready to go into the venue. And there were 3500 people. And guess what, man, I've never seen her. Don't tell me it was an ice bath, right? Yeah, well, I would have done it. We probably would have done it right, because, you know, you just you've got a completely different mindset. Yeah. No, you're you're, you're, you know, the night before our self-confidence, our self-worth and a self self-belief about ourselves got elevated. And so our frequencies all changed, but it did it collectively. And that's what's so interesting about day two, when I'm standing in the floor, you're getting ready to go in. I've never seen or witness anything like it. People were laughing, they were crying, they were hugging, they were connecting human, mystically, under unlike anything I've ever seen in my life. I've never seen anything like it other than a Tony Robbins seminar. It's beautiful. It's gorgeous. And to be part of it is really, really a spiritual connection with other humans, Right? Total. Total opposite. So bottom line was that was it. That's, that's I saw that it was its take March of 2020 how we all got shredded, how we r started arguing, you know again it's just you know because 2020 what happened. We started arguing over everything. Wear a mask, don't wear a mask, get a vaccine, don't get one, get two, get three, get nine boosters. You know, I love Donald Trump. I hate Donald Trump. I mean, shut up already. Don't you see what's going on? Don't you see that we're getting shredded human, mystically? How are we ever going to get along as a species on this planet if we don't stop this crap right now? The powers that be know what's going on. It's not. It's not like this is some secret, right? So. Right. This experience is the total opposite of everything that happened. And then in March of 2020. So the bottom line is, later in the event I met one of Tony's trainers and 

his name is Ted Macy, super, super sweet guy, him and his wife Mary. And I'm talking to him. And I said, So you have to be in this environment on a regular basis, don't you? And he goes, Yeah, he goes, I go, Man, that must be unbelievable. He goes, Oh, yeah, Are you kidding me? Yeah, you should be in this environment if you can do it. This is a matter of fact. You see all those people standing over there with the black shirts and the pink writing on the back. Yeah, He goes, Dude, they're volunteers. They're just like you. They came to an event. Really? And then what they did is they called Rob his research, got an application, got approved, and now they're here. You can do the same thing. So I did. When I got home, I called Robert's research. He sent me an application, I filled it out. I sent it back. Like nine weeks later, I got a letter in the mail. So, Dave, Alvin, congratulations. You've been selected to crew with the Anthony Robbins Company. Wow. I'm in the door. And so that was all happening in 95. By the time 96 rolled around, I was already a subcontractor. I had a security and a 

military background. So they put me on the security team to help take care of Tony's celebrities and and from there I also lived on a farm, so I knew how to use a log splitter and I knew how to use you know, tools and all that. So they put me on the fire building team. Well, that's why that's exactly what I wanted. And so this again, this was all happening 95, 96. I became the assistant captain in 96, 2003 comes around. Tony offers me the captain's position, which meant that I would take over all of Tony's fire walks globally. And in addition to me going on the road full time with Tony, he offered my family to come with me because I home schooled my kids at the time. So now my wife and both my kids are on the road. We're Tony Robbins in 2003. Wow. Yeah, right. I mean, their first their first event was in Sydney, Australia. So it was a magical, magical time for them. 

And then in 2005, we went to London and that's where we set the world record. We've set the world record. We fire Walk 12,300 people now. Well know when I say world record, let me disclose. Guinness was not there, however. Okay. There's never been a fire walk anywhere close to 12,300 people on the planet other than another Tony Robbins seminar where were there were 10,000 or 9000. Right. So that went down in oh five and then 2014, as you mentioned earlier in your intro, that's when Google reached out to me in 2014 and said, Hey, are you the Dave Alvin? Does the fire walk for Robbins? Yes. What can I do for you? They said, Well, if you're not under any contractual obligation or non-compete, we'd like to talk to you about hiring you. So I'm like, Well, okay, well, homeboy is a free agent. You know, I can do what I want. And next thing I know, Google was hire me and we ended up doing a glass walk for them. They had a graduation for 148 execs at Mountain View, at the corporate headquarters. And we went in there and did a glass walk. And the reason we did the glass walk is broken. Glass. Yeah. Walking down broken glass. Right. So we did the glass walk because they wanted to do the event in the middle of the day. And I said, Well, we can't do a fire walk in the middle of the day. We asked, has to be done at night. I have to be able to see those goals. It's a safety issue, right? But again, we can do a glass walk and they're like a glass walk. You mean like walking on broken glass? I'm like, Yeah. They're like, Ooh, tell us about that. Oh, yeah. We ended up doing two gigs for Google. And then the next thing I know, Rich, you know, I'm at NASA. Notre Dame, Chick fil A, Virginia Tech, Remax, Heineken, YMCA. Now, the next thing I know, I'm having a conversation with Rich Bennett, so you know what I mean? You don't know. You just don't know what what's going to be offered to you. So the bottom line is that be ready because if something comes your way and you're not ready, then it's kind of a wasted point. Yeah, right. 

Rich Bennett 28:33
Issue with the firewall. But how long after the firewall did you walk across broken glass? 

Dave Albin 28:39
I did that. Let's see. I started looking into other life changing experiences in thousand 13. Okay, you know, board break where you break a board with your bare hand. Break up quick, put a piece of rebar in your throat with somebody else and bend the rebar as you walk towards each other. Put the arrow in your throat, get through it, break up, arrow, you know, a whole bunch of other different 

experiences. Because the reason I like the glass walk is because sometimes a fire walk isn't always logistically possible, just like at Google, right? So I've got that as a backup. So yeah. So now when a client comes to me, we can offer them several different life changing experiences, including the fire. Walk back. I took the fire. Walk the way I do it now, as I include the board, break with it. And that makes it really powerful because then it's a martial arts thing, right? Where they break a board with their hands. Yeah. And I have them write a bunch of stuff on the front of the board, the back of the board. I have them writing about his name that they've they're in conflict with, if you will. Maybe a forgiveness or reconciliation is part of that relationship. Then I have them put that person's name on the board and said, that's got to end tonight. Stop carrying around resentments for another human being that does not serve you. Then I create the rite of passage. I get them to write anybody's name on the board that they've lost. So basically we do all that. I take them outside, we have board break stations, they break the board, we walk them in a circle, They do the fire walk. I do something very, very powerful. The second that they fire walk, I anchor it in so that they can they can go back to that place any time they want and get in that peak state of that moment. Then we have right when we have them throw their boards in the fire and then we do what's called the I call it the well, it's a proprietary process that I've developed where I get all the all the participants heart hearts to calibrate. They start they start beating at the same time. So yeah, how in the hell yeah, yeah, there's a way to do it. It's real simple, actually. It's if you think about it. Well, I'll tell you, it's. It's fine. So, you know, normally when you hug somebody, you hug this way. Yeah, well, first of all, we have it. The other way. So now my heart is on top of your heart. I have you close your eyes. Take a nice deep breath in and hold it. And I. And I do a diaphragm breathing. So I'll take you to three or four breaths. And by the time you get into that second or that third breath, because you're breathing together at the same time, your hearts are on each other, boom. 

Rich Bennett 31:27
Sync is. 

Dave Albin 31:28
Sync up. And so they start beating at the same time. So I'll take that while I take the group through that several times and the next thing you know, you've got the whole darn group's hearts beating at the same time. It's a beautiful, beautiful experience. Very, very powerful. That's got to be. It's wild. Yeah, it's super wild. And the clients love it because again, I'm connecting you humanistic. Like if you want to go back home and argue about mask and vaccines, go ahead. But in that moment, I got you because I brought you back to center. I brought you back to where you're supposed to be 

working together with another human being out of love and joy and kindness and appreciation and collaboration and working together as a team and as a unit. And and it works. And so that's why there's such a demand. And matter of fact, the reason I started the company is Google told me one other one of their executives said, Hey, listen, I'm not here to tell you what to do, but you you might want to think about starting your own business because there's a there's a super high demand for you to create these life changing paradigm shift experiences at the corporate level. They said, you know, corporate America will be all over you. And they were right. And so it's been really organic. Most of my growth has all come from, you know, word of mouth. 

Rich Bennett 32:42
And I bet you started getting busy as well after after all the restrictions lifted from COVID. 

Dave Albin 32:48
Well, we. 

Rich Bennett 32:49
Because of all the negativity. 

Dave Albin 32:51
Well, it is. And some of them are just circling back to it now. I just had a really cool company get a hold of me here this last week. They just booked two days ago. There are big commercial playground companies. They build playgrounds all over the all over the world and really, really cool company. Well, their CEO had been to an event that I did for a whole group of CEOs and at MIT in Boston. And so she went back she went back to her company and said, hey, we need to hire this guy. You're not going to believe what I just went through at MIT. And so they did. So, again, you know, that's kind of a word of mouth kind of thing. Now, here's something interesting, Rich. I just made a huge turn and shift and pivoted what I've been doing. You know, corporate America has been really good to me, no question about it. I was on a podcast a couple of months ago, and Natalia, we were talking after we recorded and she said, Hey, have you ever done a fire walk for vets? And I said, You mean specifically? And she said, Yeah. And I said, No, why? What's going on? And she said, Well, I've got 300 vets coming to South Florida for an event, for a for a for a gala. And we'd love to bring the fire walk experience to them because, you know, the suicide rate on veterans is, yeah, you know, they're saying it's 22 a day, she said. That's only if they leave a note it's Yeah it's half of them don't. Yeah it's over 40. And she said you know we're out here and she goes, you could probably turn their life around. I said, I don't think I know I can. I'll develop a fire walk experience specifically for veterans. Well, so I got to thinking about it. I said, well, you know, there's we should do this for first responders as well. Yeah. What about single moms? What about kids that have been bullied? So that's my for my four categories now. So we did so we booked an event. It's going to be in Modesto, California. My buddy Ed, who's the president of the Rotary in Modesto, said, hey, will you come here and and do great, great this experience for the veterans here? I said, Absolutely. So we created what's called Operation Do No Harm. It's going to be a it's going to be a nonprofit level one, C three so that big companies can come in and say, all right, let's sponsor one of these. Let's bring one to Cincinnati, let's bring one to Vegas. Let's bring one to wherever. Right. Whatever city they sponsor it, they get all the recognition, their brand gets the recognition, and we're saving the lives of veterans and first responders, kids that have been bullied and single moms. And they can pick whatever category they want, like this, this commercial playground company. You know, they're looking at kids, right? Kids. You know, they were even asking, could you do fire, walk for kids? Sure. Absolutely. Why not? In fact, my kids, when they went on the road prior to them go on the road, they did their first fire walk in New York at a Robbins event. My daughter was six. My son was nine years old. And it was something that's not a life changing experience for a kid. I got something for you. 

Rich Bennett 36:09
Yeah, especially kids nowadays. For everything. They're going, Oh. 

Dave Albin 36:12
My gosh, Putting a mask on them and telling them they can't be around their friends. Yeah, all the social distancing and blah, blah, blah, you ruin their lives 

generation that they've done damage to these kids. Bring them to me. I'll get them through the board, break. I'll get them through the fire walk. And those kids will be different kids when we're done with it 100%. 

Rich Bennett 36:33
Wow, that is awesome. I didn't realize you were doing that with you know, that's in first responders and kids. That is just I want to say thank you, first of all. Well. 

Dave Albin 36:43
It's my pleasure. You know, it's awesome. I have a responsibility which, you know, I'm the guy that got chosen for this. Many are called. You were chosen. Yeah. And I know, I know. And you know, why do why do vets come back and take their life? Well, number one, they go to base. You know, they go to join the service and they they're taught how to kill and then they get deployed. Then they get over there and then they start seeing some horrendous things, horrible things. They're moving as a unit. They're keeping each other alive because that's you know, if you don't move as a unit, you you know, that's why you got your general orders and everything else. And then then they come home and when they come home, they get displaced. Now their camaraderie and all their, you know, are they're gone. And so their purpose goes away. And then depression sets in and then they reach for alcohol or drugs, and then they start spiraling really fast. Well, they bring them in to me. I can I can get that purpose, reunite it, you know. Well, like the fire under them will get them through that border, will get them through that fire walk. I'm also going to get them to take an oath. I'm going to have them stand up and say, hey, I promise to do no harm. And I'm also going to promise to to recruit and go get my fellow brothers and sisters and bring them in and bring them in. Let's let's get them across the fire. Let's do the same thing for them. A lot better get a chip. We're we're going to create a medallion that says operate should do no harm with a creed on the back of it so that they can carry it in their pocket. I'm going to tell them, take that goodwill, you put it in your hand, squeeze it as hard as you can feel that pain. Well, that's just a little bit of the pain that your friends or family would suffer if you take your own life. So if you need a reminder, put carry this chip in your pocket and pull it out and squeeze it. So I started going to note. 

Rich Bennett 38:37
You us veterans love them, challenge you. Yeah. 

Dave Albin 38:39
And if they take an oath, guess what they'll abide by. And we know that. Yeah. So now I'm out talking to corporate America. I'm in touch with the Black Rifle Coffee Company. What a great company. MIT 45. They're a creative company out of Salt Lake. I'm talking to Du Tara, which is a central oil company. And then, of course, where Amoco was here, Zippo lighter company. So if you're going to light a fire, you've got to light it with something. 

Rich Bennett 39:08
That's that's I for those of you listening, if you don't know what Zippo is when it comes to the military, it's like. 

Dave Albin 39:15
It's. 

Rich Bennett 39:17
It's your best friend. 

Dave Albin 39:18
Well, it's interesting you say that because in 1941, they created a lighter for the vets who were getting deployed. But in the Pacific and in Europe to fight the Nazis. I do. I know my dad carried that set on his dresser in a saucer until the day he died. So I went to zippo. I call I call him, and I said, Hey, would you guys be interested in being part of this? They said, Oh, absolutely. So I went up and spent two and a half days with them. Oh, I love zippo. They're such a great company family owned and operated. They're just a beautiful company. They started in 1931, 1932. They started manufacturing the lighters and since that time, Rich, you'll love this, they've manufactured over 700 million lighters. They write. It's insane. So here's I sit down with the design team and here's what we're designing. They're going to take the 1941 replica because it's military they're going to powder coat it black and then they're going to laser operation do no harm on the lighter, and we're going to give them out to to the vets and the first responders. So, you know, when they come to the event. So we're really excited about Zippo and them stepping up. And so right now, you know, we're we're we're in the process of putting the final one C3 together so a company can come in, they can make a donation, they can write it off and sponsor. Right. You know, one of those groups who do you want? Vets? You want first responders, You want kids, You want single moms, maybe single moms and kids, you know, bring it and sponsor a sponsor, sponsor an event, and we'll come out and we'll change a whole bunch of people's lives. And at the same time, we'll save a bunch of people's lives a year. 

Rich Bennett 41:03
I guarantee you, if you haven't already, you're going to get a ton of veteran nonprofits reaching out to you that want to take part as well. 

Dave Albin 41:10
Yeah, we're open to it all. That's we want to work with all of them. We know we've got something really special. And again, you know, I'm I'm going to be I'm going to turn 70 next year. And so I don't know how much longer I'm going to be doing this. The good news right now is I'm pretty damn healthy. I'm on zero medications, so I don't play the game with night. I don't play the game with Big Pharma. I'm not interested in doing business with them. Okay. So anyway. 

Rich Bennett 41:38
I got to be on the brink of tears before I even pop a Motrin in. 

Dave Albin 41:41
Yeah, right. Yeah, I hear you. You know, we worry about stuff, but aspirin kills more people every day than you can imagine. Just Tylenol should. 

Rich Bennett 41:51
Eat your stomach. 

Dave Albin 41:52
Away. So anyway, the bottom line is that we're looking for any and all companies that want to make their brand and their corporate name look good out there. And we're good with that and with you. That's what we want to do. And you know, corporations have sponsorship money that they have to use every year anyways, right? So, you know, come come help us. We could we could use your help. 

Rich Bennett 42:14
Now with as long as you've been doing this, can you share a story of somebody that you helped that did the fire walk and what they came back and said to you afterwards. 

Dave Albin 42:25
Oh, gosh, yeah. Oh, it's it's callous. You know, you look at my two kids, you know, they're they're very, very balanced and they're very successful. Today. I can tell you a story about there was a there was a there was a young man that thought he could be a screenwriter and write a screenplay. Right. Well, his family said, no, you're not. You're not good enough. You're not smart enough. You're not our family, right? Love your family. Choose your friends and choose wisely because you will become who you spend time with. Be very careful about who you allow interior into your circle of influence. So he's being told, you know, he's no good. Not smart enough. All these kinds of things where he goes to a he comes to the fire walk comes to you, P.W. goes to the event, goes back home and writes a little maybe you've heard of it. Sleepless in Seattle. 

Get out of here. Yeah, that's happens all the time. We hear about we hear that kind of stuff all the time. 

That is awesome. But. But it's common. Again, go Google, go to the Oprah and your fire walk. And then as soon as she fireworks, watch her celebrate, watch the cameras go with her. And again, she makes one of the biggest business decisions of her life right there. Within seconds of her fire walk. That's common. That's why Tony uses it. He knows. He knows this is one of the most paradigm shift experiences on earth. And and, you know, and CEOs and entrepreneurs and business owners, we all know that what doesn't challenge us doesn't change us. And the fears, the fears you don't overcome become your limits. We know this. That's just the way it works. Fear is a liar. Fear is there to steal from you. Now it's also there to keep you alive. So we don't do dumb shit stuff, right? But at the end of life. But at the end of the day, you know, it's interesting. I do something really cool at my events. I put a picture of a guy by the name of Eric Y and Maya on the screen behind me, and I'll talk for 20 minutes and then I'll say, So who can tell me where my buddy here is standing? And now they'll look at it and they'll say, Looks like Mount Everest. That's correct. He's standing at the top of Mount Everest. Now, I want to I want to tell you something about Eric that you don't know. More than likely he's climbed the seven highest mountains on seven continents on this planet, including Everest. So again, let me say that again, a little louder for the people in the back. He's Climbed the seven highest mountains on earth. Put him on a mountain bike. You can tear it up, put him in a kayak. He can probably negotiate just about any river on earth. But there's something very, very interesting about Eric that I want to disclose to you, and that is he's blind. 

Whoa. So I don't want to hear your bullshit. Don't tell me about what you can't do, okay? Because it's not true. If a blind man can climb the seven highest mountains on earth, what can you do when I meet and I lead into. So why don't people get what they want in life? Well, I hear all kinds of stories. I hear all kinds of things. You know, I don't people don't have the time. By the way. That's one of the biggest lies you'll ever tell yourself. Don't ever tell anybody you don't have time, because here's the the truth is, we have time for anything we're committed to. That's a fact. Because if your son is outside playing, he comes in and you you want him to play football prior to that and the dad says, well, I don't have time right now. And he goes out and plays, comes back because he's cut his leg and he needs eight stitches. Is Dad going to tell him he doesn't have time to take him to the hospital? Exactly right. We have time for anything we're committed to. So, yeah, you know, we don't have time. I don't have the money. I don't have the education, I don't have the background, I don't have the resources. That's not 

you know, we'll find a way. That's just the way the brain works. So the reason we don't get what we want in life is because there's a bullshit story we tell ourselves why we can't have it. So you want to change your life, change your story? Yes. That Stop making excuses. Excuses. Not true. You know again, Eric, climb the seven highest mountains on earth. What do you think he tells himself every morning? I can't. Oh, I'm blind. I can't do anything. That's amazing. This is amazing. Super, super guy. You know, I think we also learned a great deal from Victor Frankel. You know, the man that wrote Man's Search for Meaning for those of you that don't know, by the way, it's a great book. It's not an easy book to read, But I'll tell you, if you read it, it's going to change your life forever. Because Viktor was in Auschwitz and and they took everything from him. Everything. You know, you're standing outside in the cold, naked. You haven't you haven't had food in three days, and you're standing out there with other people and they take everything from you, your dignity, you're freezing, you're not eating. And every single moment of your life, you don't know if you're going into the chamber every every minute, every hour, every day. That's all you know, That's all you can think about, right? That you're going to die that day. By the way, they killed his family, Right? You know, in front of me. So the bottom line is he. But here's what he figured out. There's one thing you can't take from me, and that's my attitude. I have to give it to you. I have to relinquish it. And so he kept his purpose and he kept his attitude up because he said, someone's got to tell this story. And he did. And so he wrote it in the book. Beautiful, beautiful book. But again, it's a really hard read. It's it's not pretty. Yeah. However, again, if you get through it, a superpower. So the bottom line is, why don't people get what they want in life? There's a story they tell themselves again why they can't have it. So again, change your story, change your life. 

Rich Bennett 48:12
And your story. So on average, what's the length of one of your events? 

Dave Albin 48:18
Length? You mean, how long is the fire walk itself? How long. 

Rich Bennett 48:22
Is. 

Dave Albin 48:22
That typical? 

Rich Bennett 48:23
The whole event? 

Dave Albin 48:24
The whole. That's 3 hours, typically. Yeah, that's most companies. Give me a break. They've got about 3 hours. So we'll start. We'll start the event so that, you know, we start the fire walk right when the sun goes down at twilight. And then once you get them walking, it's fast. It goes really, really fast. I can fire walk a couple of hundred people in 20 minutes. When we did London, the 12,300, we walked we walked over 12,000 people in just a little over an hour. So, yeah. So, you know, I'm pretty flexible. It depends on what the client's got going on, you know, because a lot of times they're launching a new product, rich or, you know, they've got a bunch of dissention going on. So there's problems and we got to come in and, you know, again, convert that Sometimes companies are right and they're at the top of their game and they want to bring in the fire walk experience to take it to the next level. 

So it just depends on what's going on with the client. 

Rich Bennett 49:26
All right. Now something that I know if I don't ask it, that some of my listeners are going to come back to me and say, well, yeah, but is it safe? Has there ever been any serious injuries? 

Dave Albin 49:37
Okay, I fire walk tens of thousands. Well, you know, actually, it's a you know, it's close to a half a million. But I typically don't say that because no one's going to believe that. But it's true, right? So I say tens of thousands. Has anyone ever been hospitalized? No. Has that anyone ever needed medical attention? No. Now you're walking on coals are a thousand degrees. Can you burn your foot? Of course. You. But what? Define burn your foot. You're probably going to maybe get a little blister or chew on the bottom of your feet. And over 90% of the people that fire walk do it successfully with no burns at all. And again, at the end of the day, you want to talk about something that's dangerous, put your kids in soccer. 

Yeah, put them in football. That's dangerous. I know it sounds dangerous to most people. That's going to sound that way until you get there and you see it and you do it. I do things three ways. Rich, safe, safer and safest I love. Yeah. My job is to create a top ten experience or a top five experience in your life, not get you hurt. And so I walk with every single person. I walk with them when they walk, and I'm right there with them. And so and I stop them. You know, I put my hand in their solar plexus and I stop them and I'm telling them, wipe your feet, stop, wipe your feet celebrate. 

So, you know, there's a lot of there's a lot of thought and processes that go into all of it that keep everybody safe. And again, my job is to create a really powerful experience for them, a life changing experience. And that's 100% of my focus. 

Rich Bennett 51:23
How often do you get to Maryland? 

Dave Albin 51:25
How often do we what. 

Rich Bennett 51:27
Do you get the Maryland. 

Dave Albin 51:28
Do we get the Maryland? Oh, you know, 

the closest I was to Maryland here recently was probably Philly. We okay, we did an event up there for EO the entrepreneurs organization. I don't know if you've ever hear the Oh, they're a great organization, especially if you're an entrepreneur. I think they have 198 chapters globally, so they're all over New York, Philly, Boston, Hartford. I've done a whole bunch of events for these guys. And so to get into that organization, number one, you have to be invited by a member. Number two, you have to show three year financials and you have to show the organization that you've grossed at least $1,000,000 for three years in a row. Then they let you in. They're not going to let you in unless you can bring success to the organization so that you can share your experience, you know, with the other entrepreneurs. And so it's really you know, that's that's the that's why it's set up that way, so that you can all learn from each other. And and, you know, you're at a different level if you if you've been that successful at least for three years. So yeah so we did that one in Philly. 

Now I'm in touch with OEO in Baltimore, so I don't know. Okay. Know whether they were going to bring one two that they're talking about? Probably we do in Baltimore and D.C. at the same time. So we're in talks with them. So, you know, if that happens, I'm sure, you know, I'll stay in touch on Facebook and LinkedIn and all these other. Oh, I would love to try this. Oh, yeah, Yeah. 

Rich Bennett 52:58
Well, no, I'm sorry. Let me rephrase that. I would not love to try this. 

Dave Albin 53:02
I would love to catch you catching yourself. That was a great catch for you. I would love to do that. Well, you know, if you never have, you know, if you ever wanted to come up to the Appalachian Mountains and do a private event for yourself here at, you know, my cabin, I have a little two day 

event where people come up here and I get to the, you know, what's going on. What do you want to change? What's going on? Tell me about you know, tell me about your rituals. Tell me what you do every morning when you get out of bed. Tell me about your eating habits. Tell me about the patterns that you're running. Because everything we do in life is a pattern, whether it's a good or bad, it's a pattern. If we if we if we don't go to the gym that's a pattern. If we do go to the gym, that's a pattern. And so, yeah, people ask me all the time, So Dave, what's the first thing you do when you get up in the morning? I make my bed. I start there because no matter what happens in my day, even if it's bad, I come home to a bed. It's made, right? Yeah. Then I go into the stuff that I do, you know, like this morning I'm out when the sun comes up and I want that morning sunlight on my upper torso on my chest, my shoulders, my arms, my face. And that morning sunlight is super, super healthy for you. Full of vitamin D, really good for you. While I'm doing that, I'm also doing deep diaphragm and breathing. So what I do is I take 30 deep breaths, real deep. It's like, Oh. Hmm. You breathe really hard and then when you get to the end, you hold. You take a nice deep breath in and you hold it until you can't hold it anymore. I do that three times. So that's 90 breaths total, right then. Then I go to the other side of the house and I do my grounding. I do you know where it's also called Earthing, where I put my my bare feet on the planet. Grass, sand, dirt, mud, whatever. And and that calibrates us. You know, we're in a life unit. Everything moving through us is electrical. And so you need to ground once in a while just like any electrical thing that you plug in. Does it have a ground? Yes, of course it does. And we need to do that. And when you wear rubber shoes, you're not grounded. And there's a whole story behind that I won't go to on your show. But I'm just saying go out and do that. And I do that 9 minutes a day. And while I'm out there, I'm also doing additional diaphragmatic breathing. Then I come in, I do my my meditation. I read ten pages in a good book. I do my sound therapy, then I go do a hot shower and then I finish it with a cold shower. Now I'm in the Appalachian Mountains. The of my water this morning, 56 degrees. So when you when you take that, you know, I turn it off. I set a timer for 30 minutes and then boom I turn on the cold water and it hits me right here in the face and it takes my breath away. It's like, you know, and your body goes in, you know? That's why it kills information, it removes inflammation. It's really good for you because your body goes into fight or flight, sends all that blood inside to propel. And so, you know, it's gotten pretty popular now, You know, the cold baths and the showering and the cold cleanses and all that. I'm not going to do a cold plans. That's too much work. I can go in my own shower and do it. You know, it works for me. So, yeah. So that's how I start my day. 

Rich Bennett 56:33
That's a lot of ice wasted to ice. 

Dave Albin 56:36
Yeah. Yeah. I mean, not that I wouldn't do it. I don't have any problem with it. I just don't want to go prepared. Yeah, I'd rather spend my time. I like to stay in my zone of genius when it comes to time. 3 minutes in, in a cold shower works, and there's already evidence to show that, you know, whether you plunge it or you just stand in it, your body's basically doing the same thing. It's not there's no upper there's no more advantage right. To do in the cold plans versus a cold shower. So I'm going to, you know, let it be easy. 

Rich Bennett 57:08
Well, that's one of the things I remember, you know, back in the military, you know, that's one of the things we did after in basic training, after, you know, you're going for that run, they turn on the showers and it goes from hot or, you know, from warm to cold. And they just basically have you walk around, walk through it or it does it energizes you. 

Dave Albin 57:29
Oh, yeah, it does. You feel good? Feel good. Yeah. Come out. By the way, Rich. So you thank you for your service. 

Rich Bennett 57:37
Oh, no. Well, thank you, too, because did you say you served as well? Yeah. 

Dave Albin 57:41
I did. Well, bring Barmy Army. 

Rich Bennett 57:44
Oh, Fort Bragg. 

Dave Albin 57:46
No, I did basic at Fort Jackson, South Carolina. Okay. Okay. And went back to California from there. 

Rich Bennett 57:54
Okay Yeah, I would do it all while I want to do it all over again now because I'm too old. 

Dave Albin 57:58
But I mean, you know, in the military, the. 

Rich Bennett 58:01
Military has changed a. 

Dave Albin 58:02
Lot. Yeah. I mean, what I do it again, you know, I tell people I wouldn't change anything in my life. Why would I do that now? Because I wouldn't want. 

Rich Bennett 58:11
To be who you are. 

Dave Albin 58:12
I wouldn't be having a conversation with you if I change one thing in my life. So, you know, I'm. No, I'm good. Everything. Everything that's happened to me has been for a reason. And it's served. And it served me and, you know, again, we have an opportunity. Every single thing that happens to us, we get to create a story about it. Yeah, we were the we're the architect of our life. And so, you know, I like the idea. You know, life doesn't have to happen to you. It happens for you. And I believe in that. And and the meaning we give everything in life means everything. And so just be careful again who you spend time with. And you know, some of these other things, too, that you can do, like, you know, the like going out and exposing yourself to the sunlight in the morning that's free going outside and the diaphragm and breathing with it. That's free. Go sticking your feet on the planet. That's free doing, you know. I mean, I've got I've got an app where I do the sound therapy and in some of my meditations in a very small investment, couple of bucks there, the showering, the cold shower and that's free. And that's all things that your body will thank you for. That's a that's a dividend. Yeah. Is it forward for you that longevity of life. I heard a number here recently that the deep diaphragmatic breathing can add years to your life. Why? Because disease, sickness and illness cannot survive in an oxygenated environment, including cancer. 

So why not put as much oxygen into your body as you possibly can? And doing diaphragmatic breathing does that. Now I'm up here in the medical oxygen. So yeah, it's really clean, but still doesn't matter. No matter where you are, you can still do diaphragmatic breathing and you can go Google it. There's a lot of different ways to do it. The name of what's going on like in the coal plant is what I was taught to do is you, you take a nice deep breath in, you count to four and then you hold it to a count of four. And then when you exhale, you do it to a count of four. Your wait 4 seconds, you inhale again, counterforce, do everything in pattern. Right. Breathe in, hold it, hold it, then hold it for 4 seconds. Exhale 4 seconds, wait for 4 seconds, and then breathe in again for 4 seconds. I'm that part I'm learning how to do because. When I do my cold showers, it hits me in the face and it automatically takes your breath away. Whether you like it or not, your body's going to react. You can't stop it. So then it's all about getting your breathing under control. And when you get your breathing under control, it's not cold. It's not it's cold. You just don't feel it. All right? It's not so. 

Rich Bennett 1:01:04
Sure when you do that, are you actually breathe in, breathe in and exhaling through your nose or breathing in through your nose next to. 

Dave Albin 1:01:11
You in the face. You're going to you're going to gasp. So you're probably going, oh, yeah, your mouth like, okay, see, that's the whole thing. You slow it down. Yeah, get control of it, and then you can breathe through nose and out of your mouth. So different breathing techniques and different diaphragm. Breathing will have you do it different ways through your nose and through your mouth. Okay. Bottom line is at the bottom line is you want to feel your diaphragm, your want your belly to go right and fill it up because that in the lower part of your lungs, that's where I think it's called the belly. And that's what the receptors that pick up all the oxygen and disperse it into your bloodstream. So, yeah, you want to breathe deeply there. 

Rich Bennett 1:01:49
It's funny how people will will hurry up and take care of their cars, but they won't take care of their bodies, you know? 

Dave Albin 1:01:57
Yeah, they'll. 

Rich Bennett 1:01:57
Put physically or mentally. 

Dave Albin 1:01:59
They'll put. 

Rich Bennett 1:02:00
Everything you described. 

Dave Albin 1:02:01
In both. Yeah. They'll put the most expensive oil in their car but they won't go out and do a little diaphragm breathing. It really does. Look at this. You know, I tell people sometimes, you know, it's like you want to start the cold showers, Don't do 3 minutes. Try to get through 20 seconds. Yeah, do that first and then build up to it and then maybe go to a few screenings and go to a minute and then go to a minute and a half and then work your way up to 3 minutes because that's the sweet spot. 3 minutes is where you want to get to, because then and when you come out, I'll tell you right now, your whole body is going to be red. My, my, my. You know I'm red. Yep. And that's because of what's going on and how my body has to react to the cold water because it's it's hypothermia, right? Yes. So that's the bottom line is that, you know, your body's sending all that that blood. It's burning calories, too. You want to lose weight, you lose some weight. That's the way to do it. When a burn off inflammation, that's the way to do it. You know, And again, once you've done it, you know, that day you're like, okay, look what we did this morning. We exposed my body to sunlight, which is really important. I did my diaphragm breathing. I inflects my body with a lot of oxygen. I put my feet on the planet and I helped, you know, the electrical, magnetic system in my body worked at a high level, did my cold shower, did my meditation, did my breathing and my in ten pages in a good book. That's a pretty powerful way to start off your day, I can tell you. Yeah, it is. And you know the other thing. 

Rich Bennett 1:03:36
Yeah. Thank you for that. I'm going to have to change my morning routine so let me rephrase that. Add to my morning routine. 

Dave Albin 1:03:41
One thing I tell people all the time, rich in Good for You for making a commitment. I'll help hold you to it. I'll be your accountability partner. Definitely. Absolutely do. Here's the thing. I tell people, stop negotiating with yourself. If you get up and you say you're going to go to the gym at 530 or 630, dammit, do it. Because if you start going, Oh, well, I'm just going to speak another half hour. Okay, there's your pattern. That's going to continue to happen Over here, over here, over there. No, Establish the discipline. Get your happy ass up when you say you're going to do it and start your routine. 

Exactly. Yeah. There are times, you know, we got it was. I don't know what was the temperature the other day, You know, it got a lot of snow and, you know, so the earthing part I had to forego because, you know, I can go I could have gone out there and stuck my feet in the snow. 

But, you know, but I didn't I and I have earthing sheets, too, which are really interesting as well. So I want to keep my body grounded. And that's that's where I'm at peak performance and that's where I can perform at a high level. 

Rich Bennett 1:04:51
Have you have you ever thought about writing a book unless you've already started one? 

Dave Albin 1:04:57
Yeah, it is in the making. Okay. Yeah, it's going to be centered around, you know, the fire walk and the fire walking hundreds of thousands of people. So I've got a couple of people that are writers and they, they volunteer to set, you know, I would love to help you write your book and it's, it's, it's coming. You know, I do all these I do these podcasting to write. So I think 

yours is going to be the 

123rd podcast I've done. Yeah. You've been on a lot. Yeah. Since April of this. Yeah, I've done quite a few. 

Rich Bennett 1:05:36
Yeah. Now something very important. Tell everybody how they can get in touch with you, especially organizations, nonprofits, companies, if they want to hire you. 

Dave Albin 1:05:46
For your things. 

Rich Bennett 1:05:47
To come out and do an. 

Dave Albin 1:05:47
Event. Well, thanks for thanks for helping me with that part, which I appreciate it. Just go to our website. It's all there. It's fire walk adventures dot com. So it's fire walk adventures with an s all one word by Walker ventures dot com. 

We don't have the operation do no harm that part is is in development and we got to get the final 1c3 and get that up in the foundation and then we'll get that up on our website or create that. However there's another part of the website, you know, and again, if you want to hire us to come do the fire, walk glasswork, whatever, that's all there. My calendar's there, so I'm very accessible. But the Dave Alvin Fire Walk Academy is also on our website. So that's there for people that we do it once a year in October and people they send, they come to us or their company sends somebody and we train them. It's five days, it's an intensive show. We show them how to set up fire walks, glass walks, board breaks, break breaks, arrow, all that stuff. Show them how to start their own business, how to talk to Chamber of Commerce's, how to talk to fire marshals to get insurance, how to do all that stuff. So that way, if they want to go back to their communities and facilitate these life changing experiences, they can do that. So there's two ways you can do it. Either you can either come hire me and my team will come in and do it, or you can send somebody to us. We'll train them. So I just graduated 11 grads here in October last last month. Nice. And the next event is coming up in October 

24. And we limit that to 18 people. And there's a reason for that. And we've already got several that have already signed up for 2024. So not there as well. 

Rich Bennett 1:07:33
Maybe you said chamber that just may and they may be a good idea for my chamber to look into. Actually, it would be a good idea. Stop saying might Rich. Yes, it would. 

Dave Albin 1:07:44
Be a good catch in it though. That's the beauty. 

Rich Bennett 1:07:50
Dave, Before I get to my last question, is there anything you would like to add? 

Dave Albin 1:07:55
I mean, I just want to say thank you to you. I want to say thank you to your audience. You know, they're giving us their time. And I have great respect and I honor that. And I hope that we were able to say something today that gave them some inspiration or inspired them in some way. And and, again, if they if they have drug, alcohol or whatever they want to get hold of me for, I go to the website, you want to ask me a question. I'm an open book. 

Rich Bennett 1:08:19
Oh, I know for a fact it has. Because if I learn something, then I know my listeners. 

Dave Albin 1:08:24
The lesson. 

Rich Bennett 1:08:24
And I've definitely learned a lot. So I always to ask this question. You've been on several 

interviews. Is there anything and it doesn't have to be about Firewall, but is there that a host has never asked you that you wish they would have asked you? And if so, what would be their question? What would be your answer? 

Dave Albin 1:08:48
Wow, that's a really powerful question. I've got to have two. I'm thinking about this one here. 

I don't know. It's like, you know 

what? You know, my life's this or my life that, you know, what can I do, you know, to 

I don't know, not necessarily turn my life around, but how can I be of great service to humanity? And and I would say that you know, with great wisdom comes great responsibility. 

I believe that the two most important times of somebody's life is the moment they're born in the moment they figure out. Why? And so go find your why. And and I also one of my mentors said something to me one time, and I've never forgot this, Richard. Basically what he said, he said, you know, every human's got two lives and the second one starts when you when you really realize that you have only one. And if you help enough people and they want, you'll always get what you want. That's a universal code. That's the way it works. And I would say, you know, what's the best way to live my life? Maybe that's question that I've never really been asked. And then my answer to that would be learn to live from the inside out. Don't live the outside in, you know, Oh, if I get a new car, I'll be happy. Oh, if I have two girlfriends, I'll be happy if I get that big house or that I'll be happy if you, if you're saying I'm waiting for this to happen, to be happy you're on the warpath. You'll never get there. It's an illusion. It's a mirage. You're never going to get there. You've got to learn to live from the inside out. And I'll even tell you something you can do if we have a second for this. Every year, the Girl Scouts go sell Girl Scout cookies. They sell them at Walmart, this home at Lowe's, Home Depot, or whatever. The next time you see that, I'll show you how to do something and set up a pattern for your own life. I'm going to show you how to create an unbelievable, magical moment. And so they're selling the cookies right now. So when you walk up there, you know, the little girls are all excited because I if you buy one box, they're all, oh, they buy. But I mean, it's a big deal to them. And so I typically walk up to the den mother and I'll and I'll say, Hey, I'd like to buy $200 worth of cookies. Now, you don't have to do $200. I'm just saying, you know. That's right. I do. And and when you do that, you got to hear the girls that are sitting there, They're go like that. So so right. And so and I told the Den mother, I don't want the cookies. So there's a condition to me buying them. And she'll they'll say, well, what's the condition? Here's what I'd like you to do, here's what I'd like to encourage you to do. I want you to call an old folks home, a retirement home, and I want you to see if there's anybody in there that doesn't get any visitors. Their families left them to die. Oh, I want you to take. The girls teach them some really great questions. Take the cookies, go to the old folks home and go spend some time with these old folks. And let let the let the let the girls have magical moments with those seniors and let the seniors have magical moments with those with those girls. It's unbelievable. And again, I tell people, stop looking for magical moments and create them. And that's a really, really, really cool way 

to do that. Well, in fact, two years ago when I did it at my local Lowe's, the den mother, she went on, we have a, you know, a local Facebook group. Right? She went out, right. And told all the other moms that help sell cookies was what I did. And so she's now now they've created like a movement. So, yeah. 

Rich Bennett 1:12:41
That's a great idea. I like the works. 

Dave Albin 1:12:44
It's really fabulous. And, you know, you just have to have a den mother, if you will, that's willing to call one of the homes and, you know, get the director on the phone and tell them what's going on, tell her what they want to do. And normally it's not going to be any problem. They get it. They want these people to have visitors because it lets their spirit, 

especially if if those folks aren't getting visitors, That's yeah, that's horrible. So and look and look at the lesson that you're teaching the girls. The girls were there. Yeah. They saw you, they heard you, you bought the cookies, you gave them to them. And then. And then you created those magical moments. And that's a lesson those girls will will live with for the rest of their lives. And so. And everybody see each other. So it's a beautiful thing. 

Rich Bennett 1:13:29
Yeah. And they're going to teach others to do it as well. And that's that's the thing you teach young ones now, they're going to remember and they're going to carry forward hundred percent. Dave, I want to thank you so much. Man. It's been it's been a true pleasure and I cannot wait. Thanks, brother, to hook up with you and do this fire walk. It's it's going to be a blast. 

Dave Albin 1:13:49
It will be. Well, I'll change your life, brother. I'm telling you right now, it's it's. It's a very, very profound experience. And and there's a reason that it's been around for a thousand years and and used as rite of passages and graduations and the birth of children and marriages and and all these things. So I'm very honored to be able to share that gift with you. 

Rich Bennett 1:14:13
Those of you listening in next next time you have a gender reveal party for your baby, now, do it across. You know, call called Dave and do it across the coast. 

Dave Albin 1:14:23
I done it. Yeah, I've done it. Have you really to do it? Yeah. Normally, you know, they'll wait until, you know, you know, bring the baby home and give it a month, you know? Okay. And then, yeah, I did one in Nashville here a while back and they carried the baby across the fire and it was beautiful. Mom carried that baby right across the fire. And you know, when you create the video and the pictures for that, guess what mom gets to do someday? Give that picture to the baby, right? Yeah, the child. So, yeah, it's a it's a beautiful gift and it's a wonderful thing. So. 

Rich Bennett 1:14:56
Wow. God, I'm afraid to mention anything else, because you probably already, But that's. 

Dave Albin 1:15:02
Yeah, well, those, you know, Dave, those ideas of them from people like. Right. That ask good questions and I go, Wow, hey, we've never done that. Let's try that. Let's go, let's go after. Let's do that now. Absolutely. 

Rich Bennett 1:15:14
That works. Dave, thanks lot, brother. 

Dave Albin 1:15:16
Thanks, man.