From Monotony to Marvelous: Wendy S. Meadows' Story of Transformation

Rich Bennett 0:00
Thanks for joining the conversation today. I'm thrilled to introduce our esteemed guests, Wendy S Meadows, the author of Sparkling Grit Live a Technicolor Life by Finally Find Imbalance, Escaping Monotony and Beating Burnout. When his book delves deep into the challenges of Find a Balance and in demanding world. Often, readers appear to break free from the monotony and rediscovered her passion. So as we dive into our conversation, we'll explore the inspiration behind her book and the transformative messages she hopes to convey. Wendy, it's a pleasure to have you with us today. And I just got to ask right off the bat. 

Wendy S. Meadows 0:38
All right. 

Rich Bennett 0:39
Holy cow. Where'd you come up with that title. 

Wendy S. Meadows 0:43
With this, with the first title or the the like, the three parts after it? 

Rich Bennett 0:49
Well, I mean, it's all on the book, right? 

Wendy S. Meadows 0:51
It is like circling this part like. 

Rich Bennett 0:54
Well, I guess you're right. Well, I guess the main part and then the I guess the other part would be a tagline, right? 

Wendy S. Meadows 1:00
Yeah. 

Rich Bennett 1:01
Yeah. 

Wendy S. Meadows 1:01
Okay, Grab that. Yeah. So Sparkle is a concept I've been playing with for a really long time since, like, at least 2016, 2017. And long story short, I was an attorney for a really long time. I still. 

Rich Bennett 1:17
Okay. 

Wendy S. Meadows 1:17
And being an attorney and being a family law attorney can be incredibly draining. Right. So it's just incredibly draining in terms of your everyday day to day life. The people, your helping, the people that you are arguing with to help your client and everything else. And after a while and after you're in that and you're a new mom and you finally have your house and your husband and the kids and the dogs and all the things like you wake up one day and you're like, there, It's like, what is even going on? And so this is about 2015 for me. And I fell into a health and wellness business. And as I started to meet the people in that business and see them had these really cool lives that had nothing to do with the law and how happy and bright and sparkly they were, I'm like, Ooh, I want some of that. I want some of that sparkle. And so 2015, 2016, I started shifting my life and my outlook on life, how I manage my days, how I manage my clients. And that was the sparkle, right? That and just finding these cool little things, making my life go from gray to Technicolor, which is part of that, right? The byline or the tagline? I started finding that and I wanted other people to have that too. But just as like I started waking up and finding the sparkle and, oh, it's so fun and happy and, like, more fun over here. You don't just get there because you want to be there. It also takes the hard work and the baby steps, as I call them, which is great. So sparkle and grit together, I believe, creates this beautiful synergy for wanting something more and also working to get there. 

Rich Bennett 2:58
I back up a minute. So you say you're a lawyer, right? Yeah. And then you found this health and wellness business. 

Wendy S. Meadows 3:06
Yes. 

Rich Bennett 3:06
So are you doing both? 

Wendy S. Meadows 3:08
So I'm not doing the health and wellness business as much anymore. I would say the thing I'm coaching like I'm a life coach and life coach and an author now, but I'm not working that health and wellness business as much anymore for a variety of reasons. But it is the thing that woke me up. 

Rich Bennett 3:26
Okay, so now you're a life coach. You're an author and you're a lawyer. 

Wendy S. Meadows 3:32
Right? Yes, yes, yes. 

Rich Bennett 3:34
When do you find time for yourself? 

Wendy S. Meadows 3:36
Well, 

the person. 

Rich Bennett 3:40
You are, you need the book, right? 

Wendy S. Meadows 3:42
Right. Right. Like you find it near the first hour of every morning. We're still kind of tweaking. Is Harvard County schedules putting a middle schooler on the bus? You're putting on bus at 630 in the morning. So that is been a little tricky, right? 

Rich Bennett 3:57
But yeah. 

Wendy S. Meadows 3:59
The first hour of every day is mine. That is mine. That is Mom's time. And that is the time I have for silence is the time I have for journaling, reading, writing and working my creative self, you know, and then my workout as well after that. But a full hour that is just dedicated to me every morning. 

Rich Bennett 4:17
Interesting. Okay. So in your book, you discuss find a balance. Would you just explain that a little bit there? Mm hmm. So what does balance mean to you? Why is it crucial for a living, a technicolour life? 

Wendy S. Meadows 4:30
Yeah, well, you can't live a technicolour life without it. But I think the misconception balance behind balance, right, is people like, Oh, there's no such thing as work life balance, Let's call it work life harmony and that. So that's like a new phrasing I've heard. But I believe 100% you can find balance. It just doesn't look the same every day and you have to be open to it. Right. And it also I was thinking about it this morning, like I have a good friend in recovery. And, you know, for recovery, it's always, you know, one day at a time. Right. So balance is the same like balance is you take it one day at a time is never going to look the same. It's not like, oh, you work so hard, you read the book, you finally know work life balance. You've reached the pinnacle and you're done. And you never have to, like, touch it again. 

Instead, I think it's finding balance and understanding what you need to feel balanced on any given day. And I have a little trick for that, if you want to hear it. 

Rich Bennett 5:27
But absolutely. 

Wendy S. Meadows 5:28
Yeah. Okay. So my trick, like I say, like balance is going to be different every day. So the number one thing when you wake up in the morning, you think about what is your big event of the day. Right. Right. So, you know what? What's your make of that for that of the day? Do you have one? 

Rich Bennett 5:43
Oh, yeah. This recording. 

Wendy S. Meadows 5:45
This recording. All right. Thank you. Right. And like you know, like when you're preparing and you're on the recording, have did you consider, like, who you wanted to be during the recording? 

Rich Bennett 5:55
Who I wanted to be. Yeah. I just want to be myself. I don't try to be other people. 

Wendy S. Meadows 6:01
Mm hmm. But you have to give that an adjective. 

Rich Bennett 6:04
Yeah. Herewe. 

Wait, wait. 

No, but I know you're here to tell me how to do it. 

Wendy S. Meadows 6:14
And I'm putting you on the hot seat. Yeah, I think that what the. So for me, same thing. You know, my big event of the day is your podcast, the vlog cast. And I want to be energetic. I want to be well spoken. I want to be confident. And not that I need to be somebody else, but what are the very best qualities of myself and who do I need to be in order to best show up for the big event of the day? Okay, so. Right. So that is my way of finding balance because when I am in the moment, not only am I present at the another good one, not only my present, but I've already decided who I want to be in that particular moment. 

Rich Bennett 6:53
Okay. Yeah. Got it now. Well, in that case, for me would just be positive. 

Wendy S. Meadows 6:58
I like that. 

Rich Bennett 6:59
Because if you're positive, it's like everything else just falls into place, I believe. Right. Now, you mentioned you have a friend in recovery. Yeah. Have you given this book to your friend? Does your. 

Wendy S. Meadows 7:11
Yeah. She has a she has a copy. 

Rich Bennett 7:13
Okay. Has she read it yet? 

Wendy S. Meadows 7:15
She has. And I got to see her last weekend, and I signed it for her as well. 

Rich Bennett 7:20
Now, do you. Has she said whether or not the book has helped her or not? And the reason I ask that is because we 

what we we talk to people in recovery all the time. And I'm thinking this could be if it helped her, then it could definitely be something that all these other. Yeah. The addiction recovery places need. 

Wendy S. Meadows 7:42
Right, right, right. Well, I don't want to put words in her mouth, but I know she loves the book. I know she loves it. I know it's what she needs and what she needed. She'll say to me, I know 

it is helpful when she tends to get stuck, you know, like anybody tends to get stuck. Yeah, she finds that helpful. And she, in terms of getting unstuck and looking, maybe taking a step back and looking at the bigger picture. So she has found it helpful for that. I also talk in the book, you know, I mean, she's broken up with alcohol, you know, and she is leaning on sugar instead. And now she knows, okay, I need a break up with sugar now, because sugar doesn't make me feel good either. Right. I talk about that in the book and I talk about breaking up with alcohol a little bit in the book, not from a recovery standpoint, but just more of an awareness standpoint. Yeah. 

So she's like, okay, I need to look at the sugar piece now as well. 

Rich Bennett 8:35
That's not that hard to give up to is sugar. 

Wendy S. Meadows 8:38
I know. I know. 

Rich Bennett 8:40
Tell her story. 

Well, stevia works for me. 

Wendy S. Meadows 8:45
Yeah. 

Rich Bennett 8:45
Yeah, I was doing the monk fruit for a while, and then I couldn't find out what a monk fruit was. 

Wendy S. Meadows 8:51
I think my picture is this really ugly fruit. I don't know, like a really ugly grapefruit. 

Rich Bennett 8:57
That's just like. Yeah, It's like, okay, Is it ugly or did a dragon fruit or. And then I found out that apparently if you take too much is not good for is like, yeah, everything. It doesn't matter somethings bad for you. So actually for your book, can you share a personal anecdote or story for the book that holds a special place in your heart? 

Wendy S. Meadows 9:18
Yes. Yes. This is my most favorite story, and I share this. I think every time, like I'm speaking at an event or what have you. So in a similar vein, I just talked about the most important part of the day, and I also call that a future casting as well. You know, future casting, deciding who you want to become. And it's not always about work, You know, sometimes it's about family, Right? And I'm a divorce lawyer. I've been a divorce lawyer. I'm actually not litigating anymore. We can talk about that. 

Rich Bennett 9:45
Okay. 

Wendy S. Meadows 9:46
But we can argue here, you know, today, too. But 

I don't want to be divorced from my husband. I love my husband very much. Right. And so but sometimes we don't see our spouses the way we should. You know, and I. I am definitely guilty of that, you know, And I'm guilty of not maybe being as kind of a wife as I need to be at times. So when I was doing my journaling in the morning and thinking of my big event of the day, it was actually my husband was leaving for Ocean City that weekend for our guys weekend. And I had a really busy day like on zooms and typing away at my computer right here and I knew he would walk down the stairs like over there and my default, Wendy would be like, okay, I love you. I'm I have a good time. And like, that's not really saying goodbye. You know, that's like sort of dismissive. Right, Right. Because, like so I said, my thinking back in the day, saying goodbye to my husband and who do I want to be? I want to be a kind, loving, present wife, and I want to give my husband a big hug. And sure enough, it was like several hours later, I I'm coming down the stairs and I'm inclined like, he's done it in my work. I really don't like breaking from my work, but I break myself away. And I said, But no. When do you remember? You're like a loving wife. And I pushed my myself aside. I walked out of the office, walked over there, and I actually, like, I stopped what I was doing rather than make him come to me because I do that, too. And I made him put down his bags, you know, and I gave him a hug. And it was like it wasn't a dismissive hug. It wasn't quick. It was like a hug that probably lasted 45 seconds. And I leaned into it like I leaned into him. Right. Like I put my whole weight of my body on him, leaned into the hug. 

Rich Bennett 11:29
And probably scared the hell out of him. 

Wendy S. Meadows 11:33
Now, you know, he was probably at work. 

Rich Bennett 11:36
On things like, Oh, my God, she never does that. What is wrong? 

Wendy S. Meadows 11:39
I know I can't read the book. And he said, You remember that? 

Rich Bennett 11:42
Okay? 

Wendy S. Meadows 11:44
And but what I say is, like, for the rest of my life now, no matter what, like if something terrible happens that, you know, we all get, like, nervous, I'll have that hug like I have it. It's like seared into my memory, like this inside out. BOTH Yeah, It's like one of those core memories. I have it for the rest of my life, and it's like I can still feel it every time I talk about it. And that's. That's one of my favorite. 

Rich Bennett 12:06
I love the sea and I think and now and this is just me. But every time before your spouse leaves the house, give them a hug and a kiss. Say I love you when they get back. Did the same thing. And definitely, definitely before you go to sleep. Yeah, I agree with all of that. You're Irish, aren't you? 

Wendy S. Meadows 12:28
No. 

Rich Bennett 12:28
Oh, you're not like. 

Wendy S. Meadows 12:29
A lit up. Like when I did that Ancestry.com thing. I think I've done, but I wasn't aware of it before that. 

Rich Bennett 12:37
Okay. The reason I ask is because. Well, because my wife is like that, too. She's just like, Yeah, by or waits for me to come to her kids. And I think is the Irish in her. 

Wendy S. Meadows 12:48
Oh, interesting. 

Rich Bennett 12:49
Yeah. Okay. 

Wendy S. Meadows 12:50
I never thought about it that way. 

Rich Bennett 12:52
Although then again, I'm Irish. Goodbyes can take hours, so. 

Yeah, you never know. So you're actually. This is the first book you've written, right? 

Wendy S. Meadows 13:05
It is. 

Rich Bennett 13:06
Any more granular. Any more that you. 

Wendy S. Meadows 13:09
I have more in me. I'm trying to decide. So in my brain, I know there's going to be at least four. I don't know. Oh, just know that. Okay, so this is the first one I know the last one. The last one is going to be called letters. The little Wendy. But I don't know what the middle two are yet. I'm still trying to figure out those. I think it's probably going to be sparkle and grit for the divorcing parent. Like, more like take my experience in the personal development. Right. Take my experience as a divorce attorney and mediator that I don't litigate anymore. I only mediate like, I mean, there's a lot of heartbreak and in divorces, actually. And take those two things together and have a good guide book for parents going through the process on how they can best take care of themselves through the process and also stand up for themselves and get the best result that they can and the best for their great idea. 

Rich Bennett 13:59
Great idea. 

Wendy S. Meadows 14:00
Okay, so maybe there'll be a book too. 

Rich Bennett 14:02
So this book, was it published or were you self-published? 

Wendy S. Meadows 14:06
Self-published, but well, a little bit samey. So I worked with a book coach and he now has his own self-published self-publishing agency called Reflect Reflect Publishing. So it's under rough Publishing, which is my book Coach's Publishing house. 

Rich Bennett 14:21
Okay. And how long did it take you to write book? 

Wendy S. Meadows 14:24
So I started in March of 20, 23, and I had my rough draft given to my editor in June of 2023. 

Rich Bennett 14:34
For what? All right. How many pages is it? 

I mean, it's a pretty great. 

Wendy S. Meadows 14:41
Yeah. 233. 

Rich Bennett 14:44
And you wrote that. Wow. Yeah. And did you have any help in. 

Wendy S. Meadows 14:50
You know, when I had editors at the end? 

Rich Bennett 14:55
Well, yeah. 

Wendy S. Meadows 14:56
Yeah. So I think this I'm sure other authors have talked about this on your show as well. When it's in your heart. 

Rich Bennett 15:02
Yeah. 

Wendy S. Meadows 15:02
And you sit down and you write and you're in this thing called flow. Have you ever been in like, the flow, the creative day. 

Rich Bennett 15:09
And all track of time? You just keep going. Yeah. 

Wendy S. Meadows 15:12
You do. And it's like the words, like, magically came out of my fingertips. Like, sometimes like my fingers could not go as fast as that. It was like, flowing from my brain to my heart to my. 

Rich Bennett 15:20
Yeah. 

Wendy S. Meadows 15:21
Fingers and yeah. And I was at a system, you know, I had a system to make sure I was getting my word count in every day, but it just, it was all in me for so long and it was just time for it to come out. 

Rich Bennett 15:33
It's amazing how everything just once you get going, how flows right now, all natural and everything. So who do you envision as the ideal reader for your book? What do you hope they take away from it? 

Wendy S. Meadows 15:44
Yeah, Ideal all reader is, and truly I think anyone can benefit from it. But right now I'm really looking at my ideal reader. It would be Wendy from five years ago. So Wendy five years ago is, well, how old is she? 42. 37. So if someone like in their mid-thirties, their second child is 18 months, they are ready to start like waking up, right? Because after having a kid maternal and all that takes a lot out of you and it takes a while for your I call it your brain is back in your head right like it's a good not until either kid is like 18 months old when that my brain sort of become my mind body, you know become my own again. So someone with their young they're done having children. Youngest is 18 months and they a woman, a mom, probably most likely a working mom, like a mom that has a job outside of the home as well and is just feeling blah and feeling stuck and feeling very alone and just ready for a change. But she has no idea where that's going to come from or start. She just knows that something's got to give or else she's going to go bananas and the biggest takeaway I would want for her is to know that she is not alone. Like, Wow, someone else gets me, someone else knows me. Someone else has been here too. I'm not and not like this is normal and here's how I can get out. 

Rich Bennett 17:10
I have been talking to authors for I don't know how many freaking years now. You are the first one that has actually created their own avatar for their book. 

Wendy S. Meadows 17:24
Oh yeah. 

Rich Bennett 17:25
Yeah. I mean, right. I mean, very specific. I love that. I've never had anybody that has done that before. That's amazing. Wow. Your first. 

So with the book have how does your book approach the topic of self-care, especially in the context of busy professionals who often want to prioritize work over personal well-being? 

Wendy S. Meadows 17:55
Right. So probably in the morning routine chapter Chapter five. I go into the morning routine piece and I encourage everybody first, just no matter what, wake up before your children. I don't care what you're doing, but you have to wake up at least half an hour before your kids. You can drink your coffee in the silence. I don't care. I'm not going to make you do anything but be smart with that. Right? And then I encourage my readers to find an anchor. And the anchor can look like all sorts different things. That anchor can be sweat. Not like working out, right? The anchor can be meditation, something I'm still working on myself, right? So I feel funny teaching. I'm a guy. I'm still figuring out my meditation practice, journaling, 

and also not doing certain other things like do not work, look at work, email first thing in the morning, do not look at social media first thing in the morning like you're the CEO of your day. You get to decide like email doesn't rule your day, you know, like you're in charge. And so those two pieces, I'd say in terms of the morning routine, which is chapter five, and then tackling your work day, see what chapter that is and forget I'm top of my head. I know some of these off the top of my head because it's happening in Workday chapter seven, which is really making sure you're in charge and work and all the other pieces are in charge of you, but you also charge your work day. Yeah. 

Rich Bennett 19:13
Okay. So besides what you've already mentioned, are there any specific exercises, tools or techniques in the book that readers can implement immediately to see positive changes in their lives? 

Wendy S. Meadows 19:27
Yes. So long answer, short answer. My answer. 

So long answer is, in the book there's a QR code that takes you to resources, and I give my readers a free downloadable workbook called Grit Work. So I. 

Rich Bennett 19:46
Love that. 

Wendy S. Meadows 19:47
Yeah, think, think so. Like throughout the book, there's various grit work exercises for my readers to do, and they can download the PDF and they could buy. One is not too, if they want it printed out, done for you solution, but I want them to have it for free if they want it that way and they have these daily exercise that are not daily, but exercises throughout each chapter where they need to stop what they're doing and do the grit look like. Okay, and action steps. So that's a long answer. And like I give them lots and lots of things to do right away, but in particular, like one thing they can do right away, I mean, this is what I saw growing all the time, I think already said it twice as well, is just you have to wake up before your children begin to set your alarm half an hour earlier, like done. 

Rich Bennett 20:30
Even on Christmas morning. 

Wendy S. Meadows 20:33
Well, you have to do before your kids. Well, okay. Okay. 

Rich Bennett 20:36
I'll swear. I'll tell you answer this, Wendy. 

Wendy S. Meadows 20:42
Because you know what my kids do now? Christmas, it's oh, my gosh. I hear them talking to Alexa every half an hour. And I think to them, like, I think we tell them, like, you know, we can't knock until 530. So starting around 3 a.m., I hear both kids. Alexa, what time is it? Alexa What time is it? Alexa has You have to go and. 

Rich Bennett 21:02
How old are the kids? 

Wendy S. Meadows 21:04
11 and nine. 

Rich Bennett 21:05
11 and nine. So now you watch. This year the nine year olds could be. And Alexa, where is Santa Claus? Alexa, where is Alexa? The Santa. Hear Alexa tell Santa Claus not to forget by now. And it'd be nice if we could program Alexa to say what? Your youngest daughter's name. You're well, as you say. Her name. Jane. What is it? 

Wendy S. Meadows 21:27
Ava? 

Rich Bennett 21:28
Eve. All of them say if Alexa can respond back, I say, Ava, Santa wanted us to tell you to make sure you go to bed. And don't forget his cookies. 

Wendy S. Meadows 21:39
I'm sure there's an app. 

Rich Bennett 21:40
There's got to be a somewhere. There's got to be. So with writing the book, even though you wrote it at right time, what was the most challenging part? Hmm. And actually and how did you overcome it? 

Wendy S. Meadows 21:55
Okay, so the most challenging part was as I was writing, I'm writing about some pretty deep stuff. Mm hmm. Right. And I am giving advice and I want to make sure I'm following my own advice and I want to make sure what I'm giving is solid and there were times I was maybe afraid to write something in a certain way, or I wrote it in a way to, like, make myself sound good. And I'm like, This is complete bull crap. Every once a while, like I could tell I was bull crapping myself. And I'm like, No, no. And I would like, delete and say, like, Wendy, like, you can't do that here. That doesn't you want to be like your true, authentic self, and that's okay. So sometimes it would be if I wrote a sentence and felt funny about it. I say, Is this the most absolute, true, authentic statement you can make? And if it wasn't, I would delete it and start again. But like basically calling bullcrap on myself, I wrote something that like I cannot even believe, you know, which sometimes happens because you have to. Then I know in holding myself too true to that. So is this the most true possible statement I can make as part of writing this book? You're curious about what the negative reviews might say or the critics might say. And I said to myself, okay, yes, that will I think, if and when that happens. But so long as every sentence I write is the most absolute true statement I can make, then I'm okay, because I've just I've just told the truth and my truth and how I look at things. 

Rich Bennett 23:17
And speaking of critics, so 

it sounded like you slaved something down there for a bit is like, Oh, did I hear that? Okay, so what feedback or stories have you received from readers who've been impacted by the book? 

Wendy S. Meadows 23:34
Yeah, my favorite. My favorite is everyone, says Wendy. It sounds like people, especially people who know me, like when they read the book, like it sounds like you are sitting next to me talking to me because the way the book is written and the cadence of which I wrote it, it sounds like me talking to them and they say, Yeah, And with the intro, even women have said, I've heard this countless times, like, Oh my gosh, I laughed and I cried. And I put the book down because someone got me. It's like you are living in my head. So those make me feel really, really good. When someone like I said before, my biggest takeaway for my reader is that she feels heard and gotten right. And then that is like the number one feedback I'm getting from people that like, Oh my gosh, she gets me. It's like she's living like in my house or something that that's what feels really good. 

Rich Bennett 24:25
I love that. So as far as your writing style. MM Are there any authors or even thinkers or experiences that influenced your writing style? 

Wendy S. Meadows 24:39
I think so. So there's two books that I first read as my first personal development books. Before I like it, I peppered them beforehand, ended with What's the self-help nonsense? Like, what if that's like, I don't want to read it, but I did anyway. I did anyway. I was encouraged in that when I was doing the health and wellness business, that was a big that everyday was like reading Personal about development and the book where I think I have the most similar tone to is Rachel Hollis. Girl, wash your face. I don't know if you're familiar with that one. 

Rich Bennett 25:13
Yeah, One of my co-host loves Rachel Hollis. 

Wendy S. Meadows 25:15
Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I loved her truthfulness in the book. I loved her cattiness and more like folksy kind of tone. 

Rich Bennett 25:23
Right? 

Wendy S. Meadows 25:24
And I think reading her book gave me the courage then to write in my tone in the same way. And I started off with blogs and Facebook posts and that sort of thing. And I would say I'm probably most similar to her style. 

Rich Bennett 25:36
Okay. Something very important. Mm hmm. Tell everybody your website and how they can find your book. 

Wendy S. Meadows 25:43
The easiest way is Sparkle and Jet.com. That is the easiest thing to type in rather than my name, you know, But spark on Trip.com that will direct them for a link to my book, a link to my journal that will be coming out very shortly. My own Sparkle and Grit journal. And they can find me there as well. 

Rich Bennett 26:00
Okay, So I have to ask you this because with this book and everything you're doing, 

have you thought about starting a podcast to go hand in hand with the book? 

Wendy S. Meadows 26:16
I have, and I really like the idea I have in my brain as well for how I would stretch it, just as you said in the very first minute of this, how do you have time? So I'm not there yet. I'm not like, I want to get everything happening where I need it step by step, step by step, my baby steps. 

Rich Bennett 26:37
Right. 

Wendy S. Meadows 26:38
And I'm excited for it when it comes. It's just not it is not here yet. 

Rich Bennett 26:47
I think I'll be as well as the bookstore, and correct me if I'm wrong, but it's an award winning book, right? 

Wendy S. Meadows 26:53
Yeah. Best selling on Amazon. 

Rich Bennett 26:54
Our bestselling book. 

Wendy S. Meadows 26:55
Okay, Bestselling and seven categories. 

Rich Bennett 26:57
So nice. So I think the podcast would because it's a you know it's your it would be in a specified niche that you're doing. 

Yeah I can see that working and then when you bring out the sequel. Yeah and then well the journal first right it's the journal we have this then the Journal. Mm hmm. The last book is Letters to Wendy. 

Wendy S. Meadows 27:22
Write Letters to little Wendy. 

Rich Bennett 27:24
Letters to little Wendy. 

Wendy S. Meadows 27:26
Yeah. 

Rich Bennett 27:27
Well, women will be the third book. I don't know. 

Wendy S. Meadows 27:30
I'm not going to. 

Rich Bennett 27:30
Embark on a group part two. 

Wendy S. Meadows 27:33
Maybe My daughter wants to do a children's book. She's like, Mommy, we should do it. And then I get I'm going to help you write and I get half the profits, Right? 

Rich Bennett 27:42
That's actually a great idea, especially with, well, I would say children's book or even like young teens, because as you know, with COVID, your mental health just went especially for kids sky high and this is something that would definitely help. And I'll be honest, this book, just from Talking to you, reminds me of a book that helped me with my mental health as well, which was The Secret by Rhonda Byrne. I don't know if you everyone. Oh, excellent, excellent. About lining yourself. The law of attraction, positive, you know, positivity. But that's what it reminds me of. So, Wendy, I. Yeah, this, this is kind of unfair because we before we started recording, I told you, but you've been on several interviews already. Mm hmm. Is there something that a host has never asked you that you wish they would have asked you? And if so, what would be their question? What would be your answer? 

Wendy S. Meadows 28:47
And I've been toying with that question in the back of my brain this whole time, doing the podcast, like, what are like, I think 

the question wasn't quite asked of me this way, but I think this is the question. I think this is the answer. What I would want people to know you like, and I does that, and I'm trying to think, how do I know what the answer to the question is? Okay, so, Wendy, now you have it made, right? Everything's great. Everything's amazing. You wrote this book like you're on top of the world. That means like you are now perfect because you wrote this, like, amazing, beautiful, right? And the answer be like, of course not. Of course not. Like this book, even though I wrote all this and I firmly believe in all this and I follow this 90 plus percent of the time. 

Rich Bennett 29:33
Right. 

Wendy S. Meadows 29:34
It doesn't mean I'm perfect, and nor is anybody else out there who proclaims to be so all of them. And I know these things because, you know, I've been in people's lives for the last 18 years in terms of being a divorce attorney, now a life coach. Other things that I know, the nitty gritty behind everybody, like even the people that you revere, and nobody has it perfect, nobody has it made. We all have to work on this every single day. And we just have to just keep showing up and keep showing up like, okay, how can today be a good day? How can I show up as my best self? And some days you're not going to have it and you and that's okay. Like some days you're going to be like, you know what? Today needs to be a TV day. And I put the cover over my head and do nothing. And that's okay. It's 100% okay, but no one no one is perfect. No one has it made, no matter what it might seem like on the outside. 

Rich Bennett 30:23
Thank you for saying that, because I think a lot of people need to hear that. I think without a doubt. Wendy, I want to thank you so much. And don't go away. Once I hit the record, Anita, I want to talk to you about something as well. Okay? 

Wendy S. Meadows 30:38
Okay. Sounds good.